03 350Z Base 1/4 @ firebird
Originally Posted by Sup3rduperZ
agreed I ran faster then that stock haha
Originally Posted by Motormouth
now, with him being modded it makes no sense that he has not gained any MPH over a stock car. a Z should trap in the 102-104 range with those mods.
Originally Posted by Motormouth
so the correction factors would be: 1200ft (elevation) - .9874 (E/T) - 1.0129 (MPH)
so how would his times NOT suck, DavidV?
a corrected 13.9, 100mph with mods like that is not a good run.
so how would his times NOT suck, DavidV?
a corrected 13.9, 100mph with mods like that is not a good run.

Too many people compare their times to other times which are at a completely different environment. Comparing similar times at well prepped track, with similar DA's is as closest as a "fair" comparison that can be done. (The only thing closer would be comparing two cars that ran at the same track, same day.
His times are good assuming the conditions were a little better than average. Ofcourse, he can still improve his time with more practice & on colder nights.
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
You cannot find the "correctional" times for a track with only its track altitude. You need to calculate its Density Altitude. There are many calculators out there 
Too many people compare their times to other times which are at a completely different environment. Comparing similar times at well prepped track, with similar DA's is as closest as a "fair" comparison that can be done. (The only thing closer would be comparing two cars that ran at the same track, same day.
His times are good assuming the conditions were a little better than average. Ofcourse, he can still improve his time with more practice & on colder nights.
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Too many people compare their times to other times which are at a completely different environment. Comparing similar times at well prepped track, with similar DA's is as closest as a "fair" comparison that can be done. (The only thing closer would be comparing two cars that ran at the same track, same day.
His times are good assuming the conditions were a little better than average. Ofcourse, he can still improve his time with more practice & on colder nights.
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This is one of the reasons I think the Top 25 list is crap. It rewards location more than driver skill. A mediocre driver can pull a very good time by driving so-so at a good track as compared to an excellent driver showing a slow time at a high DA track. A good example is the one member who just recently got a ~13.7-8 here in Vegas (NA mods). This driver didn't get a second glance from most of the members in the drag section, yet he technically outdrove most on the Top 25 NA list. A High 13, low 14 time in Vegas is equivelent to a low-mid 13 second run at MIR. But as I typed... The Top 25 list rewards location more than skill.
Last edited by HDPDZO6; Nov 5, 2007 at 05:31 PM.
at all the noobs talking about his "slow" times.
Last edited by 3hree5ive0ero; Nov 5, 2007 at 05:24 PM.
Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
at all the noobs talking about his "slow" times.
Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
+1000. DA is one of the biggest factors in regards to what time is obtained for the 1320.
This is one of the reasons I think the Top 25 list is crap. It rewards location more than driver skill. A mediocre driver can pull a very good time by driving so-so at a good track as compared to an excellent driver showing a slow time at a high DA track. A good example is the one member who just recently got a ~13.7-8 here in Vegas (NA mods). This driver didn't get a second glance from most of the members in the drag section, yet he technically outdrove most on the Top 25 NA list. A High 13, low 14 time in Vegas is equivelent to a low-mid 13 second run at MIR. But as I typed... The Top 25 list rewards location more than skill.
This is one of the reasons I think the Top 25 list is crap. It rewards location more than driver skill. A mediocre driver can pull a very good time by driving so-so at a good track as compared to an excellent driver showing a slow time at a high DA track. A good example is the one member who just recently got a ~13.7-8 here in Vegas (NA mods). This driver didn't get a second glance from most of the members in the drag section, yet he technically outdrove most on the Top 25 NA list. A High 13, low 14 time in Vegas is equivelent to a low-mid 13 second run at MIR. But as I typed... The Top 25 list rewards location more than skill.
SO your telling me ALL the time Chris and I have put into this list has been a big waste of our time??
Atleast there is a list
I agree, the DA or elevation of the track can be a big factor in the time you will run. But i cant help that some tracks arnt set up like others.
It is what it is
Todd
Originally Posted by aceman
Well, what would you recommend us to do??
Some of you guys need to learn to
every once in a while. Quit complaining so damn much about this, that, but so and so, car, conditions, track, DA, elevation, etc.
https://my350z.com/forum/drag/312917-drag-race-forum-listen-up.html
every once in a while. Quit complaining so damn much about this, that, but so and so, car, conditions, track, DA, elevation, etc.https://my350z.com/forum/drag/312917-drag-race-forum-listen-up.html
Originally Posted by aceman
Well, what would you recommend us to do??
SO your telling me ALL the time Chris and I have put into this list has been a big waste of our time??
Atleast there is a list
I agree, the DA or elevation of the track can be a big factor in the time you will run. But i cant help that some tracks arnt set up like others.
It is what it is
Todd
SO your telling me ALL the time Chris and I have put into this list has been a big waste of our time??
Atleast there is a list
I agree, the DA or elevation of the track can be a big factor in the time you will run. But i cant help that some tracks arnt set up like others.
It is what it is
Todd
Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
Maybe I shouldn't have been so harsh then (apologies), as I realize a long time went in to the lists. However, if you are going to have a list recognizing the best drag racers on the forums, then DA should to be considered. As the fastest times does not necesarrily mean the best racers.
To many times people post that they dont like the way something is, and then they have no solutions to go with the negative post.
Im all for making the list better, but do you see the DA listed on the timeslips that people post up, or the elevation??
I dont
Just be positive guys, it goes along way in making this section a enjoyable one.
Todd
OP, sorry for being off-topic, but one more. 
Including the DA is all good and dandy, but does that mean we should include "corrected times" as well? What about number of mods, whp, wtq, etc? The list will never be perfect and I hope you guys will realize that. However, the list does show a number of competent drivers and what the Nissan 350Z can be capable of, with or without mods, with or without proficient drivers.
From now on, I'll post my conditions along with the calculated DA when I post my timeslips.

Including the DA is all good and dandy, but does that mean we should include "corrected times" as well? What about number of mods, whp, wtq, etc? The list will never be perfect and I hope you guys will realize that. However, the list does show a number of competent drivers and what the Nissan 350Z can be capable of, with or without mods, with or without proficient drivers.
From now on, I'll post my conditions along with the calculated DA when I post my timeslips.
Originally Posted by aceman
I dont mind someone posting how they dont like the way things are. But, if you are going to do so, then also post a valid way of making it better.
Just gets annoying sometimes when you see the idiotic posts from some of the members (who have no clue as to the multitude of conditions of certain tracks (based on location, prep, etc.). These are the people who cannot read a timeslip and are under the assumption that the ET is the end-all be-all of drag racing (when actually the numbers above the ET are more telling of a driver's skill) and make it a point of knocking a person's posted time because it may be 14+ seconds or whatnot.
<---Won't derail anymore in this thread.
Originally Posted by speedsniper
Went out to Firebird Raceway Friday night. I have a 03 350Z Base 6spd, My best was 14.060 @ 99.88mph
the rest where:
14.094 @101.46
14.373 @100.43
14.139 @100.98
14.444 @98.41 (let off in 3rd)
14.060 @99.88
What do u guys think.
Mods are: Injen Cold Air Intake, Powerlab Intake Plenum Spacer, and TiTek Stainless Steel Test Pipe, also I'm on Street Tires w/ stock wheels.
http://intensepower.com/350z.html
the rest where:
14.094 @101.46
14.373 @100.43
14.139 @100.98
14.444 @98.41 (let off in 3rd)
14.060 @99.88
What do u guys think.
Mods are: Injen Cold Air Intake, Powerlab Intake Plenum Spacer, and TiTek Stainless Steel Test Pipe, also I'm on Street Tires w/ stock wheels.
http://intensepower.com/350z.html
I have a base aswell.
You are almost hitting 102mph, thats not bad at all. You dont have a reflash or a tune of any kind? If you dont, then i would make that your next mod. It will improve your MPH and take better advantage of the mods that you do have.
What i would say is. Try launching around 2700rpm and feather the clutch out of the hole. Tire presure that seemed to work for me was around 25 to 27psi and i bumped the front tire presure to 40psi. Shift first gear at redline, second at redline and third around 6000rpm.
See what that does for you and let us know.
Hope this helps
And sorry for all the drama in your thread
Todd
Thanks for all the comments, i want to get in to the 13's with out doing anymore mods, so ill try lowering the tire pressure and launching around 2500rpms.
i'm going back in a few weeks.
Thanks again for your guys help.
i'm going back in a few weeks.
Thanks again for your guys help.
Originally Posted by davidv
Show us how it should be done here: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840.
Last edited by Nexx; Nov 6, 2007 at 02:42 PM.
Originally Posted by HDPD350Z
+1000. DA is one of the biggest factors in regards to what time is obtained for the 1320.
This is one of the reasons I think the Top 25 list is crap. It rewards location more than driver skill. A mediocre driver can pull a very good time by driving so-so at a good track as compared to an excellent driver showing a slow time at a high DA track. A good example is the one member who just recently got a ~13.7-8 here in Vegas (NA mods). This driver didn't get a second glance from most of the members in the drag section, yet he technically outdrove most on the Top 25 NA list. A High 13, low 14 time in Vegas is equivelent to a low-mid 13 second run at MIR. But as I typed... The Top 25 list rewards location more than skill.
This is one of the reasons I think the Top 25 list is crap. It rewards location more than driver skill. A mediocre driver can pull a very good time by driving so-so at a good track as compared to an excellent driver showing a slow time at a high DA track. A good example is the one member who just recently got a ~13.7-8 here in Vegas (NA mods). This driver didn't get a second glance from most of the members in the drag section, yet he technically outdrove most on the Top 25 NA list. A High 13, low 14 time in Vegas is equivelent to a low-mid 13 second run at MIR. But as I typed... The Top 25 list rewards location more than skill.
Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Some of you guys need to learn to
every once in a while. Quit complaining so damn much about this, that, but so and so, car, conditions, track, DA, elevation, etc.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312917
every once in a while. Quit complaining so damn much about this, that, but so and so, car, conditions, track, DA, elevation, etc.https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312917
LMAO! at the smileys!!!





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