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Old 12-02-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default 350Z drag racing veterans got a quick question.

Question:1

I have posted a thread in the wheel and tyre section as it seemed the most appropriate section for the question. If some of you guys have some spare time to look over the thread, I thought the racing guys may have a bit more technical and experimental knowledge on the subject.

thread: https://my350z.com/forum/wheels-and-tires/318751-is-it-possible-to-squeeze-a-16x7-5-rim-on-z33-base-model.html
Thread Topic: 16 x 7.5 rims (ssr type c) would it be possible to squeeze them over a 350Z Base model caliper and rotor?

The idea in seeing if this is possible is to decrease unsprung weight tremendously, and reducing rotional inertia with a smaller 16 inch lightweight wheel. These rims are 11 lbs each.

Question 2:

I appreciate any advice sent my way on the subject. Ultimately I wont to use every trick in the book to see if I could get a base model as close to 12.9 as possible n/a. I want truely know until I have a Z33 to see if they will fit. But if by some chance it did, this would seriously aid in knocking some tenths off vs. the stock wheels and tires. At present I dont know how much the Z33 wheel and tire combo weighs. IF anyone has that information to pass my way that would be great. I could do some calculations to see how many tenths that would take off in the 1/4 mile.

I had some success with a 4th gen Maxima with a VQ30DE. Took it from 15.2 to a best et of 13.5 and highest trap of 102.9. I love the VQ series engine! Ive seen some manuals at the strip when i was back home in the USA running 13.8's stock. With the right setup I believe the Z33 is capable of knocking off a .8 all motor to reach a 12 second pass.

thanks for your time and information.
cheers
ceasar

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Old 12-02-2007, 09:30 PM
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Good luck! Theres not a lot of n/a Z's in the 12's.
Knowing your track record and how many times you visitthe track, I know you will be able to get any z33 weather it be an 03-05, revvup, or HR motor into the 12's.
Youre one hell of a drag racer! I was inspired by you and jime on the org to gettin into drag racing and now Im in the 12's n/a
Old 12-02-2007, 11:47 PM
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thanks for that ! 12 second club aye !! nice work !!
Old 12-03-2007, 02:45 AM
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you planning to dump the max for a z cause of the overrev or planning to have both in the stable?
Old 12-03-2007, 03:34 AM
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you can fit 15x 8-12s over the stock brakes. the 16s will be fine. to get a base model Z depending on the year into the 12s will take around 265 dynojet SAE corrected and a good driver for sure.

the open diff isnt going to help out in this situation though.

good luck!!
Old 12-03-2007, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Audible Mayhem
you can fit 15x 8-12s over the stock brakes. the 16s will be fine. to get a base model Z depending on the year into the 12s will take around 265 dynojet SAE corrected and a good driver for sure.

the open diff isnt going to help out in this situation though.

good luck!!
i'm at 265 dynojet SAE

damn, i need to get some drag radials and run me some 12's

to the OP

if ur as good a drag racer as gooey is saying, then get an 07 or 08 (with the hr engine) and see what u can do stock with that, maybe u can hit 12's stock if ur really really good

anyway, here is a link to the current 350z records if u missed the sticky
https://my350z.com/forum/drag/233840-top-25-1-4-mile-times-for-tt-st-supercharger-nitrous-bolt-ons-stock.html

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Old 12-03-2007, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by warmmilk
i'm at 265 dynojet SAE

damn, i need to get some drag radials and run me some 12's

to the OP

if ur as good a drag racer as gooey is saying, then get an 07 or 08 (with the hr engine) and see what u can do stock with that, maybe u can hit 12's stock if ur really really good

anyway, here is a link to the current 350z records if u missed the sticky
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=233840
Yup he is. He's one reason I didnt get rid of my max when I bought my Z. He really shows the potential of our VQ's.

Are you getting a Z ceasar?
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hey aj .. it would seem im heading in that direction. after talking with some of the boys I will drop the VQ30DE-K in the max, and ive been looking for a new car for awhile. Just taking my time, but it needs to fall into the import all motor class. I could continue on in the maxima but im also wanting to start some track racing, so i need a car thats a double threat. lol

07's are 70,000 new here and 50,000 used. im coming back to the states next year, so I might make the move on an 07 like you mentioned there. If not I would have to work up a 02-03 here in NZ.

Aj what are some of the hurdles the Z33 presents? Are aftermarket mods not yielding any results ? I will need to read up on the odd sounding ecu. Something about it keeps retuning itself to cancel out mods ? Would the Emanage Ulitimate take care of that ?

anyways as you can see i got a bit of homework to do. if it just cant be done then i will look elsewhere but i still say if we can make a lowly maxima run hard, surely a 350Z will do the same.
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Easiest way to 12's NA is an 07'+ Z...but like Jeremy said you only need 260whp to run 12's or have the potential to run 12's. I trapped 107mph with 260whp...
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Originally Posted by ceasars chariot
hey aj .. it would seem im heading in that direction. after talking with some of the boys I will drop the VQ30DE-K in the max, and ive been looking for a new car for awhile. Just taking my time, but it needs to fall into the import all motor class. I could continue on in the maxima but im also wanting to start some track racing, so i need a car thats a double threat. lol

07's are 70,000 new here and 50,000 used. im coming back to the states next year, so I might make the move on an 07 like you mentioned there. If not I would have to work up a 02-03 here in NZ.

Aj what are some of the hurdles the Z33 presents? Are aftermarket mods not yielding any results ? I will need to read up on the odd sounding ecu. Something about it keeps retuning itself to cancel out mods ? Would the Emanage Ulitimate take care of that ?

anyways as you can see i got a bit of homework to do. if it just cant be done then i will look elsewhere but i still say if we can make a lowly maxima run hard, surely a 350Z will do the same.
I just believe that the maxima responds alot better to mods and tuning goes a long way with the Z. I've noticed alot of people install mods on their Z's and hit the track untuned then aren't happy with the results. Even with my Z after I installed my dual exhaust I could barely break into the 13's even though I ran 13.8 stock. I dropped .9 tenths with just my y-pipe on my max untuned so I guess I figured since I'm replacing my whole exhaust system on the Z I'd be running low 13's . When I dynoed my Z with the exhaust I was told that I did need to be tuned to get more power out of it but I'm sure it wouldn't give the same track results as the max. Even with every bolt-on it still seems difficult to get a pre 07 Z in the 12's. If I were you I'd get an 07 if you get anything else you'll wish you did. This is just my observation though. I'm by no means an expert.

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Originally Posted by ceasars chariot
Would the Emanage Ulitimate take care of that ?
there are much easier ways to tune the z33. unlike the max, there are more plug and play options for piggyback, UTEC comes to mind
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