I took my stock 07 to the track today
Hell, Id kill to race in 55 degrees, traction wouldnt be the greatest but its definetly better than when i ran in 90 degrees with 90 something humidity, i still ran a 13.8 though. Next time ill brake torque and should have exhaust and intake by then. Its so fun drag racing though isnt it?
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Originally Posted by Accordaleer
Hell, Id kill to race in 55 degrees, traction wouldnt be the greatest but its definetly better than when i ran in 90 degrees with 90 something humidity, i still ran a 13.8 though. Next time ill brake torque and should have exhaust and intake by then. Its so fun drag racing though isnt it?
But I won't blame the weather for my lousy times. If I could go back in time, I would have launched at higher rpm's. 2200rpm's is what I launched at. I think I should have launched at atleast 3000-4000 rpm.
Yes drag racing is very exciting. I really enjoy it.
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Originally Posted by gsingh350Z
However, I will leave my car completely stock until I can hit 13's. If the driver is not up to par with a bone stock car, then modding is pointless. I need practice.
Maybe some nitto 555R IIs would work for you as a first mod
for the bench racers. with a 60 foot like that you cant attack trap seeds or guestimate ETs. when I was new to my car I ran 14.1s and slower at 99-100. After some wheel time with no changes I ran 13.6s at 102 with 2.0 60's. I dropped the subs and a little weight and was going 13.4s at mid 103s. Added nittos alone and was able to leave at 4k and give it almost all the throttle in 1st. 13.1 at 106 first pass. your ability to put power to the ground is key. No power mods were ever done to my car on its journey from 14s - 12.8s at 106...Only traction and weight loss. food for thought.
OP is on the right path
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Originally Posted by vstrizheus
You should be able to get into the low-mid 13's on a stock 07... 13.2 - 13.4 should be attainable with practice. I ran a 14.0x on my wife's 5AT G35 Sedan. Still, not bad for a first time @ the track.
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
He "should" be able to pull only what he and, more importantly, what the track is capable of yielding him for his car.
I can gurantee you that no matter how great the DA's are, 90% of the tracks would not allow a stock 07 Z to hit 13.2, even with perfect driving.
It looks like his car could have pulled around ~13.7 is he had better 60ft's (2.0's is nothing easy to achieve). But then again, he did state the conditions sucked. Wih 97% humidity, I would assume the track would be somewhat moist, hence, traction issues.
High to mid 13's is probably the accepted "range" for an 07 Z with ideal conditions & great driving. Those who get below 13.5 are lucky enough to have an excellent track at ideal conditions and ofcourse, experience in drag racing.
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I can gurantee you that no matter how great the DA's are, 90% of the tracks would not allow a stock 07 Z to hit 13.2, even with perfect driving.
It looks like his car could have pulled around ~13.7 is he had better 60ft's (2.0's is nothing easy to achieve). But then again, he did state the conditions sucked. Wih 97% humidity, I would assume the track would be somewhat moist, hence, traction issues.
High to mid 13's is probably the accepted "range" for an 07 Z with ideal conditions & great driving. Those who get below 13.5 are lucky enough to have an excellent track at ideal conditions and ofcourse, experience in drag racing.
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Originally Posted by JonsilvZ
Your trap speed seems weak.
Originally Posted by 95snoozer
Very wise, no reason to throw HP at a roblem and only make comound it.
Maybe some nitto 555R IIs would work for you as a first mod
for the bench racers. with a 60 foot like that you cant attack trap seeds or guestimate ETs. when I was new to my car I ran 14.1s and slower at 99-100. After some wheel time with no changes I ran 13.6s at 102 with 2.0 60's. I dropped the subs and a little weight and was going 13.4s at mid 103s. Added nittos alone and was able to leave at 4k and give it almost all the throttle in 1st. 13.1 at 106 first pass. your ability to put power to the ground is key. No power mods were ever done to my car on its journey from 14s - 12.8s at 106...Only traction and weight loss. food for thought.
OP is on the right path
Maybe some nitto 555R IIs would work for you as a first mod
for the bench racers. with a 60 foot like that you cant attack trap seeds or guestimate ETs. when I was new to my car I ran 14.1s and slower at 99-100. After some wheel time with no changes I ran 13.6s at 102 with 2.0 60's. I dropped the subs and a little weight and was going 13.4s at mid 103s. Added nittos alone and was able to leave at 4k and give it almost all the throttle in 1st. 13.1 at 106 first pass. your ability to put power to the ground is key. No power mods were ever done to my car on its journey from 14s - 12.8s at 106...Only traction and weight loss. food for thought.
OP is on the right path
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
60ft killed the whole thing.... My guess is you blew through first and bogged 2nd gear every run (thus killing trap speed)..
Just get some more practice and the times will comes...
Just get some more practice and the times will comes...
Not to ba an apologist for either of us but if you weren't at the track last Friday than you really don't know how bad the track conditions were. Perhaps I did not paint a clear enough picture in my previous reply. I have nearly 10 years of track experience and I have run in worse conditions only once before. Power shifting was out of the question as it resulted in massive wheelspin( bounced it off of the rev limiter) and the 2-3 shift broke loose as well. The night was full of aborted runs by various cars all night. My Dad wagged his tail in a mainly stock 03 Mustang automatic in his 2-3 shift. My best runs came in the form of light launches and somewhat conservative shifting.
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Originally Posted by Britx
Not to ba an apologist for either of us but if you weren't at the track last Friday than you really don't know how bad the track conditions were. Perhaps I did not paint a clear enough picture in my previous reply. I have nearly 10 years of track experience and I have run in worse conditions only once before. Power shifting was out of the question as it resulted in massive wheelspin( bounced it off of the rev limiter) and the 2-3 shift broke loose as well. The night was full of aborted runs by various cars all night. My Dad wagged his tail in a mainly stock 03 Mustang automatic in his 2-3 shift. My best runs came in the form of light launches and somewhat conservative shifting.
I never knew.
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Boging is when you basically let the clutch go and power the car out of the hole at low rpm's. And yup..that's my dad.
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Bogging second is the result of massive wheelspin in first gear resulting in a shift into second at too slow of a vehicle speed. I should have read the entire post.
Brian
Boging is when you basically let the clutch go and power the car out of the hole at low rpm's. And yup..that's my dad.
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Bogging second is the result of massive wheelspin in first gear resulting in a shift into second at too slow of a vehicle speed. I should have read the entire post.
Brian
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^^ If that's the case, then I bogged like crazy on my launches.
After launching, I let off the clutch and felt a lag in first gear. I guess I needed more slippage??
After launching, I let off the clutch and felt a lag in first gear. I guess I needed more slippage??
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Originally Posted by gsingh350Z
^^ If that's the case, then I bogged like crazy on my launches.
After launching, I let off the clutch and felt a lag in first gear. I guess I needed more slippage??
After launching, I let off the clutch and felt a lag in first gear. I guess I needed more slippage??
I went from 13.7 @ 106mph off a 2.1 60ft (with launching easy and bogging) to 13.2 @ 107 and 13.1 @ 108 mph with a slightly more agressive launch and a little tire spin.. (avoid bogging at all cost!)..any time you get caught in a lower rpm and the car seems sluggish you might as well coast to the end because that run is wasted.
Practice and you will get better.
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Originally Posted by Britx
Not to ba an apologist for either of us but if you weren't at the track last Friday than you really don't know how bad the track conditions were. Perhaps I did not paint a clear enough picture in my previous reply. I have nearly 10 years of track experience and I have run in worse conditions only once before. Power shifting was out of the question as it resulted in massive wheelspin( bounced it off of the rev limiter) and the 2-3 shift broke loose as well. The night was full of aborted runs by various cars all night. My Dad wagged his tail in a mainly stock 03 Mustang automatic in his 2-3 shift. My best runs came in the form of light launches and somewhat conservative shifting.
A 10 year veteran probably MIGHT not have even gone to the track
and Concerning Bogging... you should probably coast the pass if you bog the car to say 2k. the VQ cannot rovide you with enough ower to ull yourself out of that hole and ut u any worthy ET. Save your tires and clutch for the next go around. If you are learning a new car, 20 asses a night could be neccessary to learn it over a season of racing. Over 50% might be aborted.
You do have VDC off right?
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You are F'ING kidding right? I went to the track for the hell of it with my dad, not to try to set some new world record. Just so happened I ran into and met Bobby. And yes as a 10 year vet I can assure you that, after running against him, any other night he would heve been well into the 13's. And just so there is no confusion, my racing experience includes four seasons racing any one of the three Vipers I have owned. All of which layed down 525-580 rwhp on motor and 910 rwhp on nitrous. I ran street tire(read stock) and E/T streets. Suffice it to say the 350z is barely a peashooter compared to what I'm used to.
You are F'ING kidding right? I went to the track for the hell of it with my dad, not to try to set some new world record. Just so happened I ran into and met Bobby. And yes as a 10 year vet I can assure you that, after running against him, any other night he would heve been well into the 13's. And just so there is no confusion, my racing experience includes four seasons racing any one of the three Vipers I have owned. All of which layed down 525-580 rwhp on motor and 910 rwhp on nitrous. I ran street tire(read stock) and E/T streets. Suffice it to say the 350z is barely a peashooter compared to what I'm used to.
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Originally Posted by 95snoozer
Save your tires and clutch for the next go around. If you are learning a new car, 20 asses a night could be neccessary to learn it over a season of racing. Over 50% might be aborted.
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Originally Posted by Britx
^^^
You are F'ING kidding right? I went to the track for the hell of it with my dad, not to try to set some new world record. Just so happened I ran into and met Bobby. And yes as a 10 year vet I can assure you that, after running against him, any other night he would heve been well into the 13's. And just so there is no confusion, my racing experience includes four seasons racing any one of the three Vipers I have owned. All of which layed down 525-580 rwhp on motor and 910 rwhp on nitrous. I ran street tire(read stock) and E/T streets. Suffice it to say the 350z is barely a peashooter compared to what I'm used to.
You are F'ING kidding right? I went to the track for the hell of it with my dad, not to try to set some new world record. Just so happened I ran into and met Bobby. And yes as a 10 year vet I can assure you that, after running against him, any other night he would heve been well into the 13's. And just so there is no confusion, my racing experience includes four seasons racing any one of the three Vipers I have owned. All of which layed down 525-580 rwhp on motor and 910 rwhp on nitrous. I ran street tire(read stock) and E/T streets. Suffice it to say the 350z is barely a peashooter compared to what I'm used to.
high 2.3s?
^^^
Um...no. Evidently you need to reread the part about the track conditions. Absolutely nothing was getting off of the line that night without wheelspin. Well...everything without slicks, but I'm sure you would have been able to get either car into the 12's. Your God given natural ability must eclipse mine by leaps and bounds. I'd love to chat with you some time in person,If you would be so kind, if only to pick up a secret or two. Maybe we should meet at a track somewhere so I may bask in all of your glory as you masterfully pilot a 300hp rocketsled down the 1320. Hell, I'll even buy the beer, your highness.
Um...no. Evidently you need to reread the part about the track conditions. Absolutely nothing was getting off of the line that night without wheelspin. Well...everything without slicks, but I'm sure you would have been able to get either car into the 12's. Your God given natural ability must eclipse mine by leaps and bounds. I'd love to chat with you some time in person,If you would be so kind, if only to pick up a secret or two. Maybe we should meet at a track somewhere so I may bask in all of your glory as you masterfully pilot a 300hp rocketsled down the 1320. Hell, I'll even buy the beer, your highness.