Burnout in water box
#22
Originally Posted by davidv
I see no reason why with a manual transmission you would be on the gas and brakes with the transmission in gear. Fill me in.
Are you confusing “cutting the power” with the torque converter simply reaching the stall RPM?
Are you confusing “cutting the power” with the torque converter simply reaching the stall RPM?
Manuals DO cut power when on the gas/brake simultaneously.
Why would you be on both? How else do you do a brake stand. You need to lock the fronts and slip the rears enough to spin the tires.
#23
I'm not sure I understand this one, whats the big deal about going through/around the water box before the tire spin if the tires get spun for more than like 1 second the water gets scrubbed....
#25
just get a line lock from jegs.com. it locks the front two brakes and opens the back two brakes so you can sit there and do your burnout.
it's on my list of things to do before i start racing this spring.
it's on my list of things to do before i start racing this spring.
#27
David-you are misinformed sir
Cars with VDC even when off, and in a situation where you want to sit still and smoke tires the car moves. So the logical thing to do is apply brake and throttle. Well even with VDC switched off the car knows your on the brakes and cuts back engine power, essentially killing the burnout.
I can spin street tires for days, but cant sit still doing a "proper" burnout without pulling the brake fuse. When you do that, the brake lights wont work and trigger VDC. Hope that helps some...
Cars with VDC even when off, and in a situation where you want to sit still and smoke tires the car moves. So the logical thing to do is apply brake and throttle. Well even with VDC switched off the car knows your on the brakes and cuts back engine power, essentially killing the burnout.
I can spin street tires for days, but cant sit still doing a "proper" burnout without pulling the brake fuse. When you do that, the brake lights wont work and trigger VDC. Hope that helps some...
#28
Originally Posted by Alberto
David-you are misinformed sir
Cars with VDC even when off, and in a situation where you want to sit still and smoke tires the car moves. So the logical thing to do is apply brake and throttle. Well even with VDC switched off the car knows your on the brakes and cuts back engine power, essentially killing the burnout.
I can spin street tires for days, but cant sit still doing a "proper" burnout without pulling the brake fuse. When you do that, the brake lights wont work and trigger VDC. Hope that helps some...
Cars with VDC even when off, and in a situation where you want to sit still and smoke tires the car moves. So the logical thing to do is apply brake and throttle. Well even with VDC switched off the car knows your on the brakes and cuts back engine power, essentially killing the burnout.
I can spin street tires for days, but cant sit still doing a "proper" burnout without pulling the brake fuse. When you do that, the brake lights wont work and trigger VDC. Hope that helps some...
#29
Originally Posted by Alberto
David-you are misinformed sir
Cars with VDC even when off, and in a situation where you want to sit still and smoke tires the car moves. So the logical thing to do is apply brake and throttle. Well even with VDC switched off the car knows your on the brakes and cuts back engine power, essentially killing the burnout.
I can spin street tires for days, but cant sit still doing a "proper" burnout without pulling the brake fuse. When you do that, the brake lights wont work and trigger VDC. Hope that helps some...
Cars with VDC even when off, and in a situation where you want to sit still and smoke tires the car moves. So the logical thing to do is apply brake and throttle. Well even with VDC switched off the car knows your on the brakes and cuts back engine power, essentially killing the burnout.
I can spin street tires for days, but cant sit still doing a "proper" burnout without pulling the brake fuse. When you do that, the brake lights wont work and trigger VDC. Hope that helps some...
#30
I just got back from the track.. I just did some quick clean offs, I was able to go around the water this time. Didn't smoke them at all, about a 2-3 second spin. My best time was the following:
60' - 2.1344
330' - 5.9565
1/8 ET - 9.0742
1/8 MPH - 78.89
I ran 5 other times and hit a 9.1x every single time. 9.11 twice in a row with almost the exact same 60'. I ran it with 30PSI in my tires, I usually lower it more but it felt good that night at 30 for some reason. I just cleaned my air intake last night, along with new brakes, tires, and an oil change the week before. The car felt really strong, I'm surprized my trap speed wasn't in the 80mph range. I've trapped 80.23 in warmer conditions before. I'm pretty sure it's because I barely let the car cool down at all. I drove to the track for over an hour, shut the car off when I waited in line for about 10-15 minutes then I ran all of these times back to back, I didn't even pop the hood all night. The 9.07 run was the 3rd one.
I wish I could of hit an 8 again sometime tonight, but I'm still happy considering there were 3 other 350Z's there all running 9.3-9.5.
60' - 2.1344
330' - 5.9565
1/8 ET - 9.0742
1/8 MPH - 78.89
I ran 5 other times and hit a 9.1x every single time. 9.11 twice in a row with almost the exact same 60'. I ran it with 30PSI in my tires, I usually lower it more but it felt good that night at 30 for some reason. I just cleaned my air intake last night, along with new brakes, tires, and an oil change the week before. The car felt really strong, I'm surprized my trap speed wasn't in the 80mph range. I've trapped 80.23 in warmer conditions before. I'm pretty sure it's because I barely let the car cool down at all. I drove to the track for over an hour, shut the car off when I waited in line for about 10-15 minutes then I ran all of these times back to back, I didn't even pop the hood all night. The 9.07 run was the 3rd one.
I wish I could of hit an 8 again sometime tonight, but I'm still happy considering there were 3 other 350Z's there all running 9.3-9.5.
Last edited by DouBLeJ16; 02-29-2008 at 08:14 PM.
#32
I just unplugged the connector at the third brake light. I did it so that I can brake boost. But because I did this I can now do standing burnouts. However you can't keep it unplugged. 1, its illegal, you have to have a working third brake light on the road. 2, I haven't had it happen to me yet but I've heard from others that the cel light will come on because the ecu isn't recieveing a signal from the brake light so it thinks somethings wrong.
OP, try disconecting the third brake light and see if that works for you. Do like the others are saying and drop the clutch enough to spin the tires and hold the brakes just enough to not move. Remember that the rear brakes are being applied and you are going to wear them out fast this way so don't do it a whole lot.
OP, try disconecting the third brake light and see if that works for you. Do like the others are saying and drop the clutch enough to spin the tires and hold the brakes just enough to not move. Remember that the rear brakes are being applied and you are going to wear them out fast this way so don't do it a whole lot.
#33
Burn Outs
Just my two cents. I have not taken my Z to the strip but I have a lot of passes in my Camaro SS and ZX-11 Ninja. I use the burn out box (water) to relieve some of the load on the drive train. The purpose is not just to clean the tires but to heat them up so there nice and sticky. As long as you keep your revs up you shouldn't hook up until your ready. I don't think you need a Line Lock on a stick.
#34
Originally Posted by davidv
Think “8.80 seconds” and it will happen.
I know I could just add 1 more minor mod, like a plenum spacer, but I'd rather just keep the intake only and work on my driving some more. Once I'm hitting 8.8-8.9 every run, then I'll add some more mods.
#35
Originally Posted by Ninjadaddy
Just my two cents. I have not taken my Z to the strip but I have a lot of passes in my Camaro SS and ZX-11 Ninja. I use the burn out box (water) to relieve some of the load on the drive train. The purpose is not just to clean the tires but to heat them up so there nice and sticky. As long as you keep your revs up you shouldn't hook up until your ready. I don't think you need a Line Lock on a stick.
#36
Originally Posted by Ninjadaddy
...I don't think you need a Line Lock on a stick.
#38
Originally Posted by token5gtd
while i would agree you don't need line-lock to do a manual burnout, it does make the process a little easier and keeps you from eating up your rear brakes
#39
There was another guy in a 350Z up there, same color and everything. He was pretty cool but was telling me to launch at 4,500 RPMs on street tires.. haha
I was like: "oh, alright, I'll have to give that a shot". He ran right before my car and must of smoked the tires all the way through first and half way through second.
I launched at around 2,800 and hit a 2.13 60'
I was like: "oh, alright, I'll have to give that a shot". He ran right before my car and must of smoked the tires all the way through first and half way through second.
I launched at around 2,800 and hit a 2.13 60'
#40
Originally Posted by DouBLeJ16
There was another guy in a 350Z up there, same color and everything. He was pretty cool but was telling me to launch at 4,500 RPMs on street tires.. haha
I was like: "oh, alright, I'll have to give that a shot". He ran right before my car and must of smoked the tires all the way through first and half way through second.
I launched at around 2,800 and hit a 2.13 60'
I was like: "oh, alright, I'll have to give that a shot". He ran right before my car and must of smoked the tires all the way through first and half way through second.
I launched at around 2,800 and hit a 2.13 60'