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Old 05-27-2009, 04:31 AM
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he says on thevideo I ran a 9.21 on he vid...he ran a 9.30 ...first vid was both our first time that night..I did a 9.4 that run and he did a 10.4..cuz he said the car popped out of first gear when it started wheel hopping?
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Originally Posted by WV350z
he says on thevideo I ran a 9.21 on he vid...he ran a 9.30 ...first vid was both our first time that night..I did a 9.4 that run and he did a 10.4..cuz he said the car popped out of first gear when it started wheel hopping?
9s are bad enough to make the whole comparison worthless...neither of you posted anything worthwhile and both had issues at launch.

Need some good drivers banging gears here to make a good comparison. (Of course if that were to happen the 370Z would finally be king of the hill. )
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we'll you can ask about anyone on wvmotorsports that was there that night.I can drive my Z.After 4 years in a Z you learn your car.

I drove the car 50 miles there...took it right on the track soon as I enterd the gate...no tire pressure changing with Nexxen 3000 tires...considering track prep is a big issue there wasnt any really.
Old 05-27-2009, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WV350z
we'll you can ask about anyone on wvmotorsports that was there that night.I can drive my Z.After 4 years in a Z you learn your car.

I drove the car 50 miles there...took it right on the track soon as I enterd the gate...no tire pressure changing with Nexxen 3000 tires...considering track prep is a big issue there wasnt any really.
Didn't I already post earlier that with 9+ sec on the 1/8 mile is nothing? Please, stop fooling yourself. You couldn't launch and you couldn't shift fast. Your 9.4 run proves it. After 4 years, you still haven't learned to launch and shift right.
Old 05-27-2009, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Didn't I already post earlier that with 9+ sec on the 1/8 mile is nothing? Please, stop fooling yourself. You couldn't launch and you couldn't shift fast. Your 9.4 run proves it. After 4 years, you still haven't learned to launch and shift right.
x2... my bone stock LT1 car (which is no where near the HRs performance level) was running 9.1~9.2 @ 78~79mph in the 1/8th on 2.1x 60fts... an HR should be in the 8s with ease and well driven should be sitting on the mid 8s in the 1/8th.

I'm far from a great driver... don't get me wrong but if I couldn't pull off an 8 in the 1/8th mile with an HR my first time out I would end myself.
Old 05-27-2009, 12:55 PM
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Problem is the rear suspension design on the 350z doesn't have the rear tires planted flat when you try to launch it hard. It's like this. / \

So getting a low 60ft is hard. I forget what my 1/8 miles are, but I am going to snap pictures of them tonight.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
Problem is the rear suspension design on the 350z doesn't have the rear tires planted flat when you try to launch it hard. It's like this. / \

So getting a low 60ft is hard. I forget what my 1/8 miles are, but I am going to snap pictures of them tonight.
Tell that to my countless 2.0xx N/A short times on multiple street tires, 1.8xx N/A short times on slicks, and 1.7xx nitrous short times on ET Streets. All I hear are excuses. Maybe you couldn't do it the first time out at the drag strip, but on your following drag strip visits, obtaining a good launch shouldn't have been that hard.
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this thread has ran its course and I guess proves nothing..oh bow down to thee 370..Im not gonna take my Z to the track every weekend and beat the **** out of it.Its a daily driver and not worried about 1/8th-1/4#s...figured I'd post a vid and get some opinions if anyone else had raced a 370Z in the HRZ..not a sword fight....
Old 05-27-2009, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
Tell that to my countless 2.0xx N/A short times on multiple street tires, 1.8xx N/A short times on slicks, and 1.7xx nitrous short times on ET Streets. All I hear are excuses. Maybe you couldn't do it the first time out at the drag strip, but on your following drag strip visits, obtaining a good launch shouldn't have been that hard.
Here is what I did.

So I had no traction in 1st gear. UGGG! My first few times were better than the rest of them. Our track is 600ft above SL. I did better than some LS1 powered cars and a 370z. The 370z stock 6mt, was only able to pull of 14.0-14.4s at 101-104s that night. I think he got one 13.9.

My best of the night for was 13.8900 at 101.79. 60ft was 9.0646.

My best MPH was 104.51

All my runs I had wheel hop and tire spin no matter what RPM I tried. I tried 2k, 3k, 4k, clutch slipping, everything and nothing worked. I tried pressures from 25-35. By the end of the evening my car was starting to get heatsoaked, and was running slower and slower. So I stopped and let it cool and ran the last run of 13.9.

My car only had K&N Drop ins, HFCs and UPREV Tune. 1/4 tank of gas. I did not remove anything from the car. Tell me what you guys think....

Here are my slips. I was car # 19.

Best ET.















Best Trap Speed

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WV350z - 370Z isn't significantly faster than a 350Z, but it should outperform a 350Z in all aspects. However, I will say that at this time, the performance figure of the 370Z is extremely weak - much weaker than I thought it would be. Only with a good driver, along with cooperative conditions, will we see numbers that surpass those of the HR.

BTW, my car is also a daily driver and has been for the past 4 years or so. My car has close to 93K miles and I spray a hundred shot untuned. I beat the **** out of my car more than anybody else I know at the drag strip and I've been there enough times to be able to draw a blueprint of the facility. Don't be so scared of a few drag strip trips.


SOLO-350Z - I replied in and updated the Top25 thread. BTW, as for your launching, it doesn't matter if you launch at 6K or go from idle. If you're spinning the tires, then you just need to slip the clutch a bit more while modulating the amount of pressure put on the accelerator pedal.

You stated that you "launched" at various engine speeds, but spun. If you were spinning, you should have given less gas. Most likely, you probably full throttled it (or did it too quickly) upon your initial release of clutch (however fast or slow). It's the combination of throttle modulation and clutch release that yields a great ET. I suggest you take things much slower next time (you consciously doing it slow while your body reacting too quickly may balance out).
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I think I probably got on the gas flooring it when I took off and released the clutch still too fast. Uggg what a pain.
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Launch is the hardest part of drag racing, especially on street tires. If you can get that down on street tires, you can do it on any tire set-up. Just keep at it.

BTW, don't expect to break any records in TX. We have an extremely small window of time of when we can actually get great to awesome times (when our DA drops under 1000). Just practice your launch and shifting techniques and that small window of time should come. You'll know when you nail a launch and beat your personal best (greatest feeling).
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Originally Posted by WV350z
this thread has ran its course and I guess proves nothing..oh bow down to thee 370..Im not gonna take my Z to the track every weekend and beat the **** out of it.Its a daily driver and not worried about 1/8th-1/4#s...figured I'd post a vid and get some opinions if anyone else had raced a 370Z in the HRZ..not a sword fight....
then why ask the question at all? or care if people have raced a 370?... I dont buy the daily driver excuse either these cars are sports cars they can handle it with proper care

my vette is a daily driver, I have 106,000 miles on it now, and have about 60 drag passes on it... not to mention countless backroad cruises...and I am planning to do some hpde events this summer... my friends with z's run their cars just as hard... so get out there and have some fun
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
You stated that you "launched" at various engine speeds, but spun. If you were spinning, you should have given less gas. Most likely, you probably full throttled it (or did it too quickly) upon your initial release of clutch (however fast or slow). It's the combination of throttle modulation and clutch release that yields a great ET. I suggest you take things much slower next time (you consciously doing it slow while your body reacting too quickly may balance out).
There it is right there!!! If your still blowing the tires off then your not slipping the clutch like you think... I don't even get a tire chirp until I am about 5ft away from the beams. Remember slow is smooth, smooth is fast.
Old 05-28-2009, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
9s are bad enough to make the whole comparison worthless...neither of you posted anything worthwhile and both had issues at launch.

Need some good drivers banging gears here to make a good comparison. (Of course if that were to happen the 370Z would finally be king of the hill. )
Agreed. 9.x 1/8th mile times make me cringe. Plus, the higher HP/wt ratio of the 370 would show in a true 1320' race. This 1/8th mile stuff is silly, IMO.
Old 05-28-2009, 09:51 AM
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Didn't we already have this thread!? The 370Z is faster, it just may take a while for someone to run a better time. I predict the A7 will even run a 12.9 or better, especially after some of the results I have seen, with so so launches.
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I'll say that it's the driver race. No way in hell 350Z would take on 370Z, stock to stock with the same driver.
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Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
100 degree temps, the oil cooler might help, but I see it still going into limp mode on a road course no doubt.
Negative. Check the 370Z forum... the oil coolers work wonders on track.
Old 05-28-2009, 11:27 AM
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^^ Actually per people testing them, it hasn't hit 100degrees and temps are still getting hot but not as hot. Like they have said it might still do the same thing in 100 degree heat on the track.
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Originally Posted by VeeTec
Didn't we already have this thread!? The 370Z is faster, it just may take a while for someone to run a better time. I predict the A7 will even run a 12.9 or better, especially after some of the results I have seen, with so so launches.
come on Warren.. buy one and make it happen


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