what is it that makes our cars soo slow
V6 turbo vs v8 turbo is completely irrelevant here. Don't try to change the argument. The point is that you claimed the Z's V6 (with turbos) doesn't have enough low end torque to get out of the hole well. Obviously that's completely untrue and furthermore, low end torque is irrelevant to drag racing unless you have a auto transmission car with a really low stall.
I never drag race my car in a RPM range where low end torque would become an issue, and even if I did there is PLENTY of it with my V6.
Face the facts, you were wrong and you made yourself look like an idiot as you tried to defend your poorly though out point.
My original post that you could not figure out was directed to post # 7. Also if you would answer the question of v-6 versus v-8 turbo blow or spray you would see that domestics have an advantage from the start, DISPLACEMENT, CC or CUBIC INCHES, pick one.
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
Last edited by Nizmo0395; Mar 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM.
My original post that you could not figure out was directed to post # 7. Also if you would answer the question of v-6 versus v-8 turbo blow or spray you would see that domestics have an advantage from the start, DISPLACEMENT, CC or CUBIC INCHES, pick one.
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
lol I've never seen someone so clueless so convinced by their own stupidity.
My original post that you could not figure out was directed to post # 7. Also if you would answer the question of v-6 versus v-8 turbo blow or spray you would see that domestics have an advantage from the start, DISPLACEMENT, CC or CUBIC INCHES, pick one.
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
If you wanted to respond to post #7, then you should have quoted that post in your response. As it was, it looked like you were responding to the OP.
Either way, I don't care how long you claim that you've been drag racing, it still doesn't change the fact that for a manual transmission car, low end torque is completely irrelevant when talking about 1/4 mile performance. Most high power Z's are 6MTs.
Finally, for someone who claims that it's not their "first day at the rodeo!", your grammar, punctuation, and overall sentence structure would make a first grader cringe. Do yourself a favor and take the advice of the others in this thread....stop posting.
Last edited by BriGuyMax; Mar 9, 2010 at 01:45 PM.
I don't have spell check, good thing you do! Only one said stop posting, thats because I told you to go frig yourself. Have a nice day!!!
I'll leave this thread with this thought,from a wiser man than me, and most others posting here.
I'll leave this thread with this thought,from a wiser man than me, and most others posting here.
Nice strawman...
Never claimed the 350Z was faster than anything. Good try though.
My original post that you could not figure out was directed to post # 7. Also if you would answer the question of v-6 versus v-8 turbo blow or spray you would see that domestics have an advantage from the start, DISPLACEMENT, CC or CUBIC INCHES, pick one.
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
Also if a v-8 has more power below 3k will have more on top also. Given that both have turbo's.
Also never claimed anything about a turbo v-6 you assumed.
To many variables to answer the reason why z's are slower than american cars! Maybe 1
good reason, american cars have been going up and down the 1/4 from the begining of it!
I edited 2 of my post because of what 03threefiftyz posted ,made me see what i posted was wrong, thats why i apologized to craping on the thread.
I've been running the 1/4 since the late 70's, not my first day at the rodeo!
Learned one thing, every thing revolves around you and your 11 sec. z! Have a nice day!
IMHO a car with a trap speed in the mid 130's should be running lo 11's to mid 10's.
Last edited by xzotklr; Mar 11, 2010 at 07:05 AM. Reason: edit text
The saying goes-No replacement for displacement. In pinks all out there was a C63 only boltons ran a 11.2@124. With just a tune on the C63 your in the 11s@119. 6.3 AMG motor loves to breathe.
Try revving that 6.3 AMG motor to 9000rpms....
Smaller parts moving put less stress on the crank than larger parts. Therefore, smaller bore motors can rev higher than larger bore motors. The same goes for longer stroke, the increased piston speeds put LOTS more stress on the rods/crankshaft.
As for the VQ vs. the 6.2 Mercedes V8, the V8 has larger pistons AND longer stroke, therefore the V8 @ 9000rpms (if it could even rev that high without sending pistons through the head) will have A LOT more internal stress than a VQ @ 9000rpms (which doesn't take anything special. BREATHING @ 9000rpms DOES.)
Last edited by BriGuyMax; Mar 16, 2010 at 09:25 PM.
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