So I was watching Pass Time on speed the other night and was paying attention to the traps vs ET.

I noticed to be mid/high 10's there were alot of cars posting mid/high 120's. There was supercharged Magnum SRT8 on the bottle that did 10.07 at 133.

Our cars our almost a full second slower with same traps. Even look at cars like Hal's daily. It went ~9.8 at 148 with a fast 60'. You take a similiar weight car from a different platform, and 148 mph traps are like a high 8s to low 9s car.

So what's the deal? Traction? Tire diameter? gearing? We can fit a 10.5 28" tire so I dont think that's it.

Lot of guys saying ohh this woul dbe a 10s car if ...blah blah blah. Obviously they are not though

It almost embarrassing to run high 130's -140's and not even break into the 10s. That should be low 10s.

Ideas?

 

Operator error.

 

Powerful street cars not set up for drag racing. Think of the domestics that lift the front wheels with less power than most boosted Zs, and run 11.0 at 110mph.

 

that srt8 magnum was stupid fast ......

 

^^well 175 shot of nitrous on top of the supercharger.... but 133 isnt that fast of a trap. I think tha t175 shot got it out of the hole very quickly and it didnt pick up much on the back 1/2. A properly set 18g Greddy kit can trap that without a 175 shot of nitrous. And those are tiny turbos.

So Scott, you dont think its a traction issue? Hal's street car had a dead hook. What else could he have done to take another 1/2 to full second off that time to match the domestics?

I guess transbrakes and TH400 trannies are required

 

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but dude you have to remember they are running v-8's and our is a v6 with about half the size in liters. Honestly for a v-6 be running in 13's i think that is great for a v-6 when most stock mustang barely get in the 13's with a 4.6 v-8. Like someone said there cars are set up for drag/most stock muscle cars, which is what they are made to do, a straight line. Our 350z are all around cars, which have great line acceleration with being able to go autoX and track events. Reason why the Evo's and Sti's get in the high 12's and low low 13's is because they have awd/turbo . I think honestly are cars engine is the little engine that could

 

1.67s 60' isn't all that impressive for non-street cars. He picked up 34mph in the last 1/8th, so the power is there. He also drove a manual, which most real drag race cars are autos. His car would run MUCH faster with an auto AND if it didn't step out on him twice during his run. He likely lifted at least once to get the car to settle, which got him out of boost.

I agree that the power of a 148mph trap should net a lot faster time (775rwhp). 0.2s on his 60' would net at least 0.3s at the top. That's a low 9s car with a suspension change and a few more runs to make a clean, straight one.

 

saw that too Hemi + 175 shot + supercharger and obviously tuned = WIN.

With a similar setup in power those times can be achieved. The Z is just not setup to be a straight line drag racer.

 

Hold on a second. Are you telling me that there are cars faster than the 350Z? How the hell did this happen?

 

V-6 don't make low end torque like a V-8 can....Domestic cars Mustangs, Cameros and Chargers weight 500+ pounds or more than a Z.

 

The 1.67 60' time for Hal's car is a shitty 60'. There's no doubt in my mind that Hal would readily say this himself. That car has 1.4s in it once he gets more seat time. There are 6spd 6cyl cars pulling 1.3 and 1.4s out there with similar power levels. Those sorts of 60' times come with more practice and getting used to the platform.

The fact someone is comparing transbraked autos to the very few 6spd Zs that have similar power levels and actually go to the track is laughable. Rowing a 150mph car down the track with a true manual trans makes it so difficult to put together a clean pass it's not even funny, whereas an auto on the 'brake can do it time after time after time. Ask hal about how his Lexus compares to his Z going down the track...

 

Why is it Z owners on this site seem to have no real knowledge of $hit and ask silly questions?

Some of you obviously do and you know who you are.

 

 

Why do some Z owners act like god when their POS cars break down every other week?

but back to the point, so if you go from 1.7s 60' to a 1.4s 60', that will give you a second in your ET?

Nealoc, can you point me to a Z/G pulling 1.3-1.4sec 60 foot times?
Of course no one is comparing a t-brake car to a manual, but how much more difference does that make than launch control (2 step along with antilag) on a manual?

 

"hye guys, why are sum cars faster then others? I DONN'T GET IT OK?!"

 

SP ran 1.4s in their 6 speed car. They have the quickest 6spd Z 60 foot time that I know of. I wasn't referring to Zs but to supras and SC300s, 300ZXs, etc, which have run well into the 1.3s. They are pretty comparable in terms of launching.


Once guys get around to perfecting drivetrain setups (i.e. axles that don't break, clutches that work like they want them to) and more and more guys start geting into those power levels, 60' times will start plummeting in those high HP cars. Fact is that most of the guys with high HP Zs don't drag race them much, and as such haven't come close to tapping their cars' potential, the vast majority of high power 350Zs these days are dyno queens or cars that just cruise around. They don't do any real motorsport or if they do they don't take it seriously enough to really excel at it.

They still won't be as quick as the 'glide n' transbrake cars because there's a lot more that goes into 140, 150, 160mph runs than just the launch, but the gap will narrow significantly as drivers start getting more seat time and learn what parts and techniques work.

 

Power to weight ratio.

 

You need to cover your ears because you can't understand the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

i pull 1.6 60's with my car and i have much much less power than hal...that car is good for a much lower 60ft. and a better time down the track for sure, its a 6spd and is much tougher to drive down the track than an auto and it is a full blown street car, not just a drag car like most cars pulling those times...

if ur looking for a fast 350z look at the z that vtr built for the track back in the day

now this is a car built to go fast only and thats what it does, unlike many street cars with twins that are fast cars just not setup for the track and pulling hard 60ft's and all .... http://vinnytenracing.com/flash/mp2.html