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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 01:52 AM
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I did some research on the nismo lsd and found nothing. If anyone can tell me what type of diff it is that would help. There are about a dozen different types.

The stock viscous works with a bunch of plates stacked up with viscous fluid surrounding them. When the viscous fluid gets to a certain temperature it changes viscosity. It gets thicker and sticks the plates together locking the rear wheels. This is why is dosen't work so well, it has to get hot before it locks. This causes the diff to not work as immediate at one would desire.
You'll get on the gas and have to wait for the fluid to heat up and then it will lock. But it does work pretty damn well, I used mine for at least a year before it broke. At least 20 events and canyon runs alomst every night. It takes more ***** to drive with this diff, you think it's not gonna lock, but it will if you stay on the gas.

The Kaaz 1.5 lsd I can comment on because thats what I use now.
This is a clutch type lsd. It works like a clutch, the harder you get on the gas the more it locks. It's similar to the viscous in constuction, it's a bunch of plates stacked up with gear oil. You can control how much locking you want by how you stack the plates, but you have to disassemble it. This is a GREAT lsd. The car immediately responds to every little input of the throttle. I've heard they break often, but mines been ok.

All I found out about the nismo lsd was that is is tuned for city driving as well as motorsports. This tells me it's probably not as agressive as the kaaz lsd. And it's adjustable without disassembleing, thats a big plus. Honestly this is probably the best lsd for the daily driver/weekend racer. The kaaz unit locks a little too much for street driving, especially in the rain. The nismo is easily adjustable, so you can easily adjust your car for street and track driving. Everthing I've heard about the nismo lsd seems good, I'd just like to know what kind of lsd it is! My guess is it's somwhere in between the kinda locking viscous and the extreme locking kaaz.

When is comes down to it, an lsd is an lsd. Welded diffs don't bother me, in fact they work great untill they break. And open diffs work great, on dirt.
The viscous works fine, don't go breaking the bank thinking you need a diff to
drift. In fact, if you've got less than 30 or 40k on the car, keep that viscous in there and get some good use out of it. Then when you put in your new lsd your skills will be more than ready.

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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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The Nismo LSD is a clutch type LSD. My manuals say that it can be changed between 1.5 and 2 way and that "initial torque" can be changed from 50.6, 68.7, or 101 ft-lbs.

636Racer, have you drifted with the 06s power steering? That's great news if it isn't that bad. I know that at really high speeds my car feels like it is understeering really bad.

I'd never think of removing the system, though. I just installed the Nismo power steering cooler, in fact.

As to not installing my Nismo LSD, I bought a Base model (I knew I'd be modifying it) so I have an open diff. right now.

I was going to install the diff. myself but the cost of all the special tools I'd need is over $600 so I guess I'll try to make an appointment with a dealer this weekend.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 08:23 AM
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The stock Viscous is fine to start. I Drifted my first session with the stock G35 LSD. Then I planted a NISMO. I do not like the loud noise of the NISMO so if any of you want to buy it cheap, it is yours.

Will get a Quaife after this weeks racing at California Speedway. The LSD helps to get the wheels spinning out of the gate, then it is purely skill, not car with Throttle control and THE FORCE...LOL

NOTE: Stock Zs and Gs are perfect for Drifting even on the Stock wheels and tires.

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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Mike-

make sure with all these guys that are comin' to the track they have good helmets that DriftDay will sign off on-

also. with august 13- i might be iffy. i dunno if my engine will be done and broken in by then.. poo! but i'll come out for fun and i'll being my suction cup Video mount if i do-
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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thanks for the info on the LSD, good write up
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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im running my nismo on the 2nd lock setting(68.7% I guess) and I had it switched to 2 way. I didnt think it was that noisy though, if you want quiet, buy a cusco RS.

andrew,
The nismo is quite agressive though, and very noisy, 2nd only to the kaaz as far as noise. I havent tried out most LSDs so im a terrible person to compare bite.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by shmately
Wholey Smokes, I don't know too much about that adaptive setup.

But KEEP the power steering, especially with a car this heavy.

And depending on where we run there is a tire facility on site. Irrwindale is one of the only places that dosen't have one.

Willow springs and Buttonwillow have tire shops on site.

And you can always run to a local tire shop if you don't like getting ripped off.

And just one extra pair of wheels/tires should be good for a beginner. (2 more couldn't hurt)
If you can't get that lsd in, come out anyways. The viscous works just fine to learn with. Plus you won't be beating on that brand new lsd.
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keep your eye on the 240 guys selling FN01RC rims. 17x10 +12 and +25 fit..and new tires for those size rims are fairly cheap, and used tires are easier to find. you could use widths from 235 and up. stretching the tires arent a bad thing either.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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AHHHH wholey smokes, not an open diff on a Z! Yeah your gonna want to put that nismo in there. Open diffs suck! They are good to learn with on the streets, because they're VERY hard to drift with. Then once you get a diff or a car with a diff your in a whole new world of steering with the throttle. And you'll have knowlege of the vehicle movements to try to break traction.


According to bobbarker the nismo is pretty agressive even on the 2nd setting. On the final setting the lsd should lock very well.

As far as noise, the kaaz is pretty loud if you need to change the fluid.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 05:30 PM
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Noisy RaceCars are cool.

Yet I kinda like 800 WHP Daily Quiet...

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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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Tomei y0. has anyone heard anything about the Tomei LSD?
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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I personally hated the stock Diff on the car for me i felt it give out and was terrible for me when i got the car sideways it would hold then let loosse. Tottally felt the ****ty viscous in it. Id like to grab a nismo lsd for my spare diff. lets talk a price
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Man this sounds like it going to rock!
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 636Racer
Tomei y0. has anyone heard anything about the Tomei LSD?
if theyll deal on it, thats gonna be my next diff, if not, im going with OS Giken.

on other cars the tomei is supposed to be great. But that doesn't mean its good for our cars.
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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Tomei and Nismo GT are the same, just no initial torque setting on the Tomei

VRT, You should reconsider the Quiafe if your planning on drifting regularly, it sucks for drift good for road race though

For the guy with open diff, you could always weld it if you're planning on upgrading to LSD in future but don't have time or budget now...
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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tomei lsd's are usually re-baged kaaz units with tomei's own touch to make the lsd even more agressive.

brandon-get the os giken...drool
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
Tomei and Nismo GT are the same, just no initial torque setting on the Tomei

VRT, You should reconsider the Quiafe if your planning on drifting regularly, it sucks for drift good for road race though

For the guy with open diff, you could always weld it if you're planning on upgrading to LSD in future but don't have time or budget now...
Thanks...

The NISMO works...

Just NOISY...Crack
Crack

Crank...Clunk

clunk
clunk

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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
tomei lsd's are usually re-baged kaaz units with tomei's own touch to make the lsd even more agressive.

brandon-get the os giken...drool
super-lock? I know a few 240 drifters here with that. they recently had kaaz lsds. I never had the chance to ask them about it. I heard that it's supposedly really good...but compared to what?
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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its SUPPOSED to be the best.

when I first diff shopped everyone at my mechanic told me to get the nismo now, and after ive gotten alot of use out of it upgrade to the OS Giken because its the best.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 07:52 AM
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Z and G
DRIFT DAY AND EVENT UPDATE


Irwindale Aug. 27 (Sunday)


Also, 1 run group Aug. 13 (Sunday)
Buttonwillow with JUST DRIFT. THANKS Shmately

Exciting News.

CALSPEEDWAY Friday - July 21 for Roadracing Ferraris...

More details to come yet at least we have dates now. Pricing and sign-up details will be available this next week.

PEACE,

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Whoa Whoa Whoa!

So Sunday August 27th is the Z/G Drift Day at Irwindale correct?

There will also be a Z/G run group Aug. 13th at Buttonwillow with the JD event?

And whats this about Cal Speedway on the 12th? ROVAL or Infield? Who is putting it on?
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