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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 02:38 AM
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I dig my Nismo Gt

First real diff I've owned and I like that I can drive around daily with ease, but whenever I want to, slide around and know exactly what the rear is going to do. Not second guessing like a vlsd or open.

And it lets you know when to change the fluid. As soon as it starts clunking around and ****, you change it and its smooth as butter again.

I use tomei diff fluid. Pretty much cause thats whats available locally.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 03:18 AM
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Here is a tip: Buy a clutch diff USED from the forums. Trust me, there are a bunch of people that will buy a diff, pay a ton of money to install it, and then almost immediately uninstall it because they dont like the increased noise. Diffs are incredibly strong and those slightly used ones are just as good (if not better because they are already broken into) then a new one. I did this years back, ended up paying around $450 shipped for a Kaaz, $20 for gear lube, and another $15 for gasket other things. You'll end up paying about half the cost of a brand new one.

As for the noise, do NOT make a purchase based on how quiet it is compared to others...they are all much much louder than stock.
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 05:28 AM
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Shameless Plug: If anyone is interested we've got access to Nismo LSDs
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Old Mar 2, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1Auto
Shameless Plug: If anyone is interested we've got access to Nismo LSDs
Damn wish i would of seen this before.. bought a kaaz, i'll have it installed this month.. i'm stoked...
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1Auto
Shameless Plug: If anyone is interested we've got access to Nismo LSDs
shipped to 73523! pm
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostguru
shipped to 73523! pm
https://my350z.com/forum/drivetrain/...o-lsd-kit.html
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwame@z1Auto
thank you thank you! i posted in that thread.
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Old Mar 3, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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I've always heard that the best diff to use is a welded diff, the only problem is that they are horrible to use everyday and unsafe to use during the rain.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 04:51 AM
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Originally Posted by nissanzealot
I've always heard that the best diff to use is a welded diff, the only problem is that they are horrible to use everyday and unsafe to use during the rain.
Until they break and you got insane random tire wear.
Dont cheap out on the 350z, this isnt an S13!
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 08:44 AM
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I know a couple of people who have welded their diffs on their Z and have had no problems with regular drifting. Shitty welds are going to break if enough pressure is applied to them regardless of what car the differential is in, these diffs aren't THAT weak.

There are quite a few pro-am drivers and a couple of formula D drivers who use welded diffs. The negatives I've heard are that you usually can't maintain as much speed and you actually have less traction during high speed drifting as compared to a clutch type lsd, doing high speed tandem next to walls is pretty sketchy lol. If you're a beginner there's nothing wrong with a welded, as you get better it just boils down to preference.


Has anyone tried shimming the stock VLSD yet? I have two diffs and I'd like to try a welded open and a shimmed VLSD before I step up to a 1.5way.
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Flee0588
Here is a tip: Buy a clutch diff USED from the forums. Trust me, there are a bunch of people that will buy a diff, pay a ton of money to install it, and then almost immediately uninstall it because they dont like the increased noise. Diffs are incredibly strong and those slightly used ones are just as good (if not better because they are already broken into) then a new one. I did this years back, ended up paying around $450 shipped for a Kaaz, $20 for gear lube, and another $15 for gasket other things. You'll end up paying about half the cost of a brand new one.

As for the noise, do NOT make a purchase based on how quiet it is compared to others...they are all much much louder than stock.
buying used is a great way to go, if you know who you're buying it from and can rely on the condition the seller represents

as for them all being much, much louder than stock, that is simply untrue
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
buying used is a great way to go, if you know who you're buying it from and can rely on the condition the seller represents

as for them all being much, much louder than stock, that is simply untrue
clutch-type lsds are ALL loud compared to stock. which ones arent?
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Old Mar 4, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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fun read:
http://www.jdm-option.com/eng/pr_CUSCO/lsd.html
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Old Mar 5, 2010 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by o.g.darkdrifter
I know a couple of people who have welded their diffs on their Z and have had no problems with regular drifting. Shitty welds are going to break if enough pressure is applied to them regardless of what car the differential is in, these diffs aren't THAT weak.

There are quite a few pro-am drivers and a couple of formula D drivers who use welded diffs. The negatives I've heard are that you usually can't maintain as much speed and you actually have less traction during high speed drifting as compared to a clutch type lsd, doing high speed tandem next to walls is pretty sketchy lol. If you're a beginner there's nothing wrong with a welded, as you get better it just boils down to preference.


Has anyone tried shimming the stock VLSD yet? I have two diffs and I'd like to try a welded open and a shimmed VLSD before I step up to a 1.5way.

I saw a thread on zilvia about shimming diffs and it seemed pretty interesting, I'd say try it if you have a diff to experiment with.
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Old Mar 6, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Flee0588
clutch-type lsds are ALL loud compared to stock. which ones arent?
several come to mind

Drexler for you big $ guys out there, Cusco RS with the right fluid (I have had the one in my car for ~5 years...if it was intrusive, it wouldn't be in my car), OS Giken with the right fluid
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 11:08 AM
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Carbonetric/ATS carbon LSD does not make noise.

Also ATS silent LSD is very quiet. Here is an link to Modified mag.

http://www.modified.com/tech/modp-09...g35/index.html
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by daytona350z
think you got a couple things backwards:

1. the Nismo unit is PRODUCED by Cusco; not the other way around. Cusco also makes the casings for OS Giken, but OS uses different innards.
Good thread. Sorry, Nismo products for the Z are almost all created but other companies. I was almost disapointed when I found that out.

Anyways, after reading this thread and talking it over with Jason, I'm probably going to get the OS Giken LSD. I'll let everyone know how it turns out for me.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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i have tomei 2 way, i like it. but im sure i have to change diff/trans oil soon, ticks quite a bit..
the only thing i dont like about it is..well the ticking lol.
just going around at low speeds and turning..
but overall i like. its pretty fun. ;p

just wondering..what would be a recommended adjustment for "sometime" drifting/daily driving for suspension? sry ik its the wrong topic here..
i have tein mono flex..dude that had it before used it as all out drifter and put to max stiff.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicxZ
i have tomei 2 way, i like it. but im sure i have to change diff/trans oil soon, ticks quite a bit..
the only thing i dont like about it is..well the ticking lol.
just going around at low speeds and turning..
but overall i like. its pretty fun. ;p

just wondering..what would be a recommended adjustment for "sometime" drifting/daily driving for suspension? sry ik its the wrong topic here..
i have tein mono flex..dude that had it before used it as all out drifter and put to max stiff.

My OS just came in today but I wasn't home to sign for it so I have to wait until tomorrow, lol.

You're running the same coilovers as me. Get into drifting, it's an awesome motorsport. My Z's suspension is 90% built for drifiting:
monoflexs, REAR - spl mid links, tein racing springs, spl tranction (toe) arms, stillen camber arms, Hotchkis front/rear sways. FRONT - Stock (for now). 99% of the stuff I installed was a recommendation from Jason. He's a way more experienced drifter and knows his ****.

Anyways, I'm serious about drifting but you can get away with drifting in stock form. Just realize that you'r alignment will get out of wack because of the stress you're applying to the stabilization hardware. You can invest in some lower cost SPC products but just make sure to purchase lockout washers so you can control your alignment better. Also, search this site for the DRIFTING area in the MOTORSPORTS section.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigalow
My OS just came in today but I wasn't home to sign for it so I have to wait until tomorrow, lol.

You're running the same coilovers as me. Get into drifting, it's an awesome motorsport. My Z's suspension is 90% built for drifiting:
monoflexs, REAR - spl mid links, tein racing springs, spl tranction (toe) arms, stillen camber arms, Hotchkis front/rear sways. FRONT - Stock (for now). 99% of the stuff I installed was a recommendation from Jason. He's a way more experienced drifter and knows his ****.

Anyways, I'm serious about drifting but you can get away with drifting in stock form. Just realize that you'r alignment will get out of wack because of the stress you're applying to the stabilization hardware. You can invest in some lower cost SPC products but just make sure to purchase lockout washers so you can control your alignment better. Also, search this site for the DRIFTING area in the MOTORSPORTS section.
damn, i agree it is fun to drift, but expensive too..haha
i need some "alignment adjustability" i'll have to check those camber arms/sways/etc. where did you get all your parts from?
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