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Old 04-22-2005, 08:58 PM
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Has anyone tried a line lock converter on the Z? I heard the abs/brake system reduces throttle when the brakes are engaged. This would lock up the front brakes and bypass the abs/brake throttle reduction, because the front brakes will lock up without the brake pedal being pressed. This would allow us to do some serious burnouts at the dragstrip. Does anyone have any thoughts on the subject?
Old 04-22-2005, 09:28 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. I have a line lock kit on my '70 Chevelle and I love it. It would be awesome on the Z.
Old 04-22-2005, 10:00 PM
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Who gave you that idea?

Any line lock system should work. You will have to customize the brake line though. Hopefully all you need to do is find line locks that have adapters to fit the brakes master cylinder(probably some type of A/N fitting).If the kit doesn't have adapters,you'll probably need to go to a hydrolic store to find some fittings. You may need to cut the brake lines, which I would not recommend.
After installing, you will need to bleed the brakes of course.

I'd like to see some one try it. I would but I can't waste any more $$ cause I need to spend all my $$ on my engine build.
Old 04-23-2005, 12:01 AM
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I had never heard of this before a few months ago when it was mentioned on the Mustang forums for 2005's.

I'm suprised no one has tried this. Maybe i'll add this to one of my lists of custom things no one has done to the Z yet besides body looks.
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I was talking to a friend the other day at the strip and I asked kim if there was a way to lock up only the front brakes and he said use a line lock. I can't believe I didn't think of it before. I was also browsing one of the threads and someone else had mentioned it, so I did a little research. Summit racing has a universal line lock kit and a universal installation kit that comes with the lines and a/n fittings. If you bought those two along with a brake line bender and some new fluid, it would only cost about $150.00.
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Do you have links to those?
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The links on summitracing are funny, it won't give you a link to a particular product, it always says summitracing in the address bar.

Here's how to find them
go to www.summitracing.com
click on online store
click on brake systems
click on line locks

Everything should show up there. I am looking at the summit kit and the moroso kit. The summit kit looks good overall, but the switch doesn't look very useful. The switch with the moroso kit is attatched to a spiral wound wire that you can hold in your hand, I think that would be better than a mounted switch, What do you guys think, You could just buy the b&m solenoid, not the whole kit, and get your own switch.
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Any unversal line lock solenoid will work, HOWEVER, you need 2 solenoids(or kits) to make it work on the Z. Due to the EBD-electronic brake distribution on the Z, you need 2 kits... Each front brake has its own line out of the master...
Old 04-23-2005, 10:51 AM
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That sucks
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why not just use an abs kill switch like me? you can braketorque it easily and only cost like 6 bucks
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Originally Posted by uplz4588
why not just use an abs kill switch like me? you can braketorque it easily and only cost like 6 bucks
For a simple burnout, that is fine... Thats what I have been doing for 2 years... But it takes probably 1000 miles off your rear pds everytime you do a real burnout.... But the main advantage of a line lock is for the launch, especially with a forced induction car... It allows you to load up the motor which in return lets you lauch in boost.... Thats the point of a line lock... Its hard to hold the brake, clutch and gas at the same time......
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Originally Posted by one3502nv
Any unversal line lock solenoid will work, HOWEVER, you need 2 solenoids(or kits) to make it work on the Z. Due to the EBD-electronic brake distribution on the Z, you need 2 kits... Each front brake has its own line out of the master...
I would have to disagree, there are only two lines that come out of the master cylinder, the solenoid could go right there, they don't split up until they go to the brake booster/distibution block. It looks like you could bend the oem line alittle and connect it between the master cylinder and the oem line.
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Originally Posted by one3502nv
For a simple burnout, that is fine... Thats what I have been doing for 2 years... But it takes probably 1000 miles off your rear pds everytime you do a real burnout.... But the main advantage of a line lock is for the launch, especially with a forced induction car... It allows you to load up the motor which in return lets you lauch in boost.... Thats the point of a line lock... Its hard to hold the brake, clutch and gas at the same time......
What kind of switch should I use, I am thinking to put a lighted rocker switch right next to the tcs switch( where vdc should be, but I have an enthusiast model) to arm the system, and a handheld switch to let the brakes go.
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Originally Posted by alininger2001
I would have to disagree, there are only two lines that come out of the master cylinder, the solenoid could go right there, they don't split up until they go to the brake booster/distibution block. It looks like you could bend the oem line alittle and connect it between the master cylinder and the oem line.
The reason you need 2 units is because you have to do it after the distribution block... if you interupt it before, the computer would take over.. Even smithtown(performance motorsports) were running 2 solenoids before they changed there brakes...

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Thanks, I understand now.
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the cheaper alternative to that is just doing the brake fuse mod. i drag my car a lot and have not had to worry about the rear pads going. that and i can burn the tires untill they pop if i wanted to. i had to replace my fronts at 15k, but my rears are still over 1/2 now at 23k miles.

here's a quick drawing of what the brake fuse mod looks like. i sell ready to install kits for this mod for $35 shipped if anyone is insterested.
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Originally Posted by MySunset350Z
the cheaper alternative to that is just doing the brake fuse mod. i drag my car a lot and have not had to worry about the rear pads going. that and i can burn the tires untill they pop if i wanted to. i had to replace my fronts at 15k, but my rears are still over 1/2 now at 23k miles.
here's a quick drawing of what the brake fuse mod looks like. i sell ready to install kits for this mod for $35 shipped if anyone is insterested.
I agree that for basic burnouts, pulling the fuse is the best option.. But it will eat through your rear pads if done alot... Even though you are spinning your rear tires, the pads are dragging on the rotors... dragging hard too... The main reason people can benefit from a line lock is so you can launch under load... Especially those like myself with forced induction.. The line lock frees up your foot and lets you hold the brakes down with a button... You can get 2 solenoids and all the wiring for about $150.... I should have mine installed in the very near future... :-)
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My line locks are done and used two jegs kits to do it. Use the standard fitting on the line locks and metric on the VDC block. PM me if anyone has questions. I have a 2003 G35 coupe 6MT but it is the same on the Z.
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Originally Posted by theking
My line locks are done and used two jegs kits to do it. Use the standard fitting on the line locks and metric on the VDC block. PM me if anyone has questions. I have a 2003 G35 coupe 6MT but it is the same on the Z.
If you could email me pics of where you mounted the solenoids and lines i would appreciate it... Also the part numbers from the kits you ordered... Also, did you have to buy the metric to standard adapters or did they come with the kit??
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