Anybody want to shed light on my modding dilemmas?
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Anybody want to shed light on my modding dilemmas?
I never did my own work on my cars and had an evo and 240sx. I havent had a fast car in 5 years and just got a 78k mile 2003 350z. Im very happy and always wanted one.
Im off to a bad start though. I want everything in the world and have no money too lol. Im still going to put expensive quality parts in this thing. My goal is to have it be a road beast. Perfect for autox / road racing, but not conforming to any qualification rules for classes..
but instead of changing suspension first. The trans is screwed and takes minutes to get into reverse. a little grinding in other gears. It also had a redneck straightpipe.. and some mushroom looking single pipe air intake.
So i took out a 5k dollar loan i have 3 months to pay or its way more and got
1. brand new cd009 trans
2. lightweight flywheel and clutch
3. tomei exhaust.
So heres my questions
1. My landlord has a lift at a shop he uses sometimes and claims to be able to do my transmission and exhaust for cheaper. Given my financial situation it seems great. How much can be messed up installing trans? How smart of a tech do i need if i really care about this car? If he does mess something up will it be easy to pinpoint and fix? I plan on maybe even getting a beater and putting this thing on ice in garage. and on next engine boost it... so big plans in far future. For now im in rental, and its about to be my daily driver..
2.computer management off the rip or tune? The only quote for tune flashed to stock ecu so far was high and on dyno. 1000 plus 100 for license. I want engine management someday. maybe aem? or is something better than aem. I guess im going to wait for the trans parts to be installed before tune. Im going to try to do this all quickly and not run it like i want until after tune. stick to low rpms..
3. I know wrong section for this but i love how car handles and the thing came w suspension bottoming out on bumps and they said it had a few new parts and rest in box to make it great. and they are stupid kids.. It looks like it has aftermarket control arms and they gave me a brand new rev9 hyperstreet II coilover kit. Not what id buy at all cheap crap. and i have a feeling itll be hard to dial in and not feel right. I am having it put on anyways so it driveable and i can focus on engine and trans first. Then later in game get suspension parts i want. Any reccomendations on what to tell them at shop when i have these poor quality coilovers thrown on?
4. lastly, what should i do immediately after some of these main things? Any overlooked important small mods if i want to ride high rpms alot and want it reliable? eg. steel braided lines, diff brace etc. I want this thing perfect someday.
Thanks and apologies for long post. i hope
im in right section, i felt alot of it was engine and drivetrain related.
Im off to a bad start though. I want everything in the world and have no money too lol. Im still going to put expensive quality parts in this thing. My goal is to have it be a road beast. Perfect for autox / road racing, but not conforming to any qualification rules for classes..
but instead of changing suspension first. The trans is screwed and takes minutes to get into reverse. a little grinding in other gears. It also had a redneck straightpipe.. and some mushroom looking single pipe air intake.
So i took out a 5k dollar loan i have 3 months to pay or its way more and got
1. brand new cd009 trans
2. lightweight flywheel and clutch
3. tomei exhaust.
So heres my questions
1. My landlord has a lift at a shop he uses sometimes and claims to be able to do my transmission and exhaust for cheaper. Given my financial situation it seems great. How much can be messed up installing trans? How smart of a tech do i need if i really care about this car? If he does mess something up will it be easy to pinpoint and fix? I plan on maybe even getting a beater and putting this thing on ice in garage. and on next engine boost it... so big plans in far future. For now im in rental, and its about to be my daily driver..
2.computer management off the rip or tune? The only quote for tune flashed to stock ecu so far was high and on dyno. 1000 plus 100 for license. I want engine management someday. maybe aem? or is something better than aem. I guess im going to wait for the trans parts to be installed before tune. Im going to try to do this all quickly and not run it like i want until after tune. stick to low rpms..
3. I know wrong section for this but i love how car handles and the thing came w suspension bottoming out on bumps and they said it had a few new parts and rest in box to make it great. and they are stupid kids.. It looks like it has aftermarket control arms and they gave me a brand new rev9 hyperstreet II coilover kit. Not what id buy at all cheap crap. and i have a feeling itll be hard to dial in and not feel right. I am having it put on anyways so it driveable and i can focus on engine and trans first. Then later in game get suspension parts i want. Any reccomendations on what to tell them at shop when i have these poor quality coilovers thrown on?
4. lastly, what should i do immediately after some of these main things? Any overlooked important small mods if i want to ride high rpms alot and want it reliable? eg. steel braided lines, diff brace etc. I want this thing perfect someday.
Thanks and apologies for long post. i hope
im in right section, i felt alot of it was engine and drivetrain related.
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Also, is it more difficult for someone to put the cd009 in vs the stock trans since its a diff one? Just trying to stilll feel out if i should let this dude touch my z.
Last edited by luv350sass; 02-20-2023 at 11:19 PM.
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I also really think it may be a good idea for me to scout hard for a decent 3k dollar car or something to use on the side for transportation or when z in shop. After i pay off loan and get main problems fixed of course. I cant wait to hammer on this thing. I havent had it over 4500 rpms, scared til after tune. I feel like i should probably instal trans parts before tune though.
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No offense, OP, but it sounds like you're way in over your head.
My advice:
1. Pay off the car loan before spending more money on it in modifications.
2. Once the loan is paid off, spend money on necessary maintenance items. From the sound of it, it appears the transmission needs to be addressed first. (and to answer your question, yes - much can be messed up by improperly installing a transmission incorrectly)
3. Sell the Rev9 coilovers and put that money towards #'s 1 and 2.
If you don't like 1 and 2, sell the Z. Save your money until you can afford to buy one with cash. Drive it for a while to get a feel for it and areas of improvement. During that time, put any extra earnings towards a "modification budget."
My advice:
1. Pay off the car loan before spending more money on it in modifications.
2. Once the loan is paid off, spend money on necessary maintenance items. From the sound of it, it appears the transmission needs to be addressed first. (and to answer your question, yes - much can be messed up by improperly installing a transmission incorrectly)
3. Sell the Rev9 coilovers and put that money towards #'s 1 and 2.
If you don't like 1 and 2, sell the Z. Save your money until you can afford to buy one with cash. Drive it for a while to get a feel for it and areas of improvement. During that time, put any extra earnings towards a "modification budget."
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well i agree but im in this now and just need some other advice on how to go about it. There were some zs same price that were nicer but the people wouldnt reply and were being flaky. rental was getting annoying paying that every week and boss doesnt like when i take off work. So i went ahead and got this one w no rust and a few problems just because it was easy to get. My pay rate will also be increasing over next few years. and last car was a ford focus i had since new and engine blew at 110k even w proper maintenance but did run it hard. I just want something i like again i was dreaming about zs the whole time i had my three cylinder focus. and i think i can afford it, it will just be crunch time rn..
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Take your loan money and go back and pay off the loan. If you've got a decent financial situation, just save and handle maintenance items. If this is your daily and it has immediately required maintenance to be somewhat reliable, you're going to have a bad time and I'd suggest selling the car for something else.
I've had mine for 12 years and have seen several people go down the road of working on and modifying these cars with loans and credit cards. It's never worked and is never a good idea.
As said before, you're simply in over your head at this point and wouldn't recommend going forward.
I've had mine for 12 years and have seen several people go down the road of working on and modifying these cars with loans and credit cards. It's never worked and is never a good idea.
As said before, you're simply in over your head at this point and wouldn't recommend going forward.
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Fix trans, sell cheap coilovers, drive car.
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Take your loan money and go back and pay off the loan. If you've got a decent financial situation, just save and handle maintenance items. If this is your daily and it has immediately required maintenance to be somewhat reliable, you're going to have a bad time and I'd suggest selling the car for something else.
I've had mine for 12 years and have seen several people go down the road of working on and modifying these cars with loans and credit cards. It's never worked and is never a good idea.
As said before, you're simply in over your head at this point and wouldn't recommend going forward.
I've had mine for 12 years and have seen several people go down the road of working on and modifying these cars with loans and credit cards. It's never worked and is never a good idea.
As said before, you're simply in over your head at this point and wouldn't recommend going forward.
Last edited by luv350sass; 02-21-2023 at 07:46 AM.
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Thanks for getting to the point for me! Would you trust the guy i know to change a trans? is this an install that gets commonly messed up? is the cd009 more difficult to install than oem trans? Big price difference vs one of the best shops
i also need something on suspension. it sounds like wheel wells or something scrapes when going over bumps. i was going to throw these on, but they do cost to install... and i would plan on changing them so you may be right. Im just not good at selling stuff online, and I need something now. If i do put cheap coilovers on, do you think i could ask them to do anything else like adjust it certain way, or buy another cheap suspension part? Id like to ride them for a year or less.
also feel like i need a tune but maybe not. i need to measure the piping on pre installed intake, its kind of big.
I was thinking either fix trans and throw old suspension parts and tune and drive (tough price wise if i pay good shop for trans). of course im throwing exhaust on forsure already
orrr maybe buy engine management and let trans sit in my house. and make sure its running right maybe even see if i can research how to tune myself. ive always wanted to learn. and throw on exhaust and cheap coilovers. Then just try not to park to where i need reverse and save to pay back loan on trans before install.
i also need something on suspension. it sounds like wheel wells or something scrapes when going over bumps. i was going to throw these on, but they do cost to install... and i would plan on changing them so you may be right. Im just not good at selling stuff online, and I need something now. If i do put cheap coilovers on, do you think i could ask them to do anything else like adjust it certain way, or buy another cheap suspension part? Id like to ride them for a year or less.
also feel like i need a tune but maybe not. i need to measure the piping on pre installed intake, its kind of big.
I was thinking either fix trans and throw old suspension parts and tune and drive (tough price wise if i pay good shop for trans). of course im throwing exhaust on forsure already
orrr maybe buy engine management and let trans sit in my house. and make sure its running right maybe even see if i can research how to tune myself. ive always wanted to learn. and throw on exhaust and cheap coilovers. Then just try not to park to where i need reverse and save to pay back loan on trans before install.
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2. Once the loan is paid off, spend money on necessary maintenance items. From the sound of it, it appears the transmission needs to be addressed first. (and to answer your question, yes - much can be messed up by improperly installing a transmission incorrectly)
3. Sell the Rev9 coilovers and put that money towards #'s 1 and 2.
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You don't need coilovers. Get some quality shocks and some springs with a rate close to OEM.
To answer your other question - the CD009 transmission is an OEM Nissan part, so install is the same.
No need to tune right now if the only bolt-on is an intake.
Why do you need engine management?
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It depends what's scraping- most likely the flex section of the exhaust. If you plan on replacing that anyways, then I guess it's no big deal, but eventually it will wear a hole in it which will be awful. Anything can be repaired with enough money, but it sounds like you are running short on that.
You don't need coilovers. Get some quality shocks and some springs with a rate close to OEM.
To answer your other question - the CD009 transmission is an OEM Nissan part, so install is the same.
No need to tune right now if the only bolt-on is an intake.
Why do you need engine management?
You don't need coilovers. Get some quality shocks and some springs with a rate close to OEM.
To answer your other question - the CD009 transmission is an OEM Nissan part, so install is the same.
No need to tune right now if the only bolt-on is an intake.
Why do you need engine management?
You are making me feel better saying i prob dont need tune. If i dont, i wont until atleast after loan is paid off. Im just worried because you never know whats been done to it. I was scared to run high rpms because it seems just a tad weak, and i thought w intake i needed tune. Only reason for engine management would be that this will b a constant project. If this engine lasts long enough for me to save money or get another car, i will build next engine and boost it. and im sure there will b other mods before that. I just thought i needed a tune now, and since a tune is like 1000 dollars and i want to learn how to do it myself because its cool to me, engine management seemed like a good idea to go ahead and purchase.
On a positive note the shop quoted me just under 1000 bucks for trans and its a good shop! I can definitely do that and pay off loan! I was thinking it may be around 3k dollars
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i mean i could post them on marketplace but i hate dealing w people and them knowing my schedule and all. I probably wont sell them for much if i do. I put a car up there and it go so annoying i took the ad down and sold the running vehicle with tons of problems for 500 instead of 2000. its almost more of a pain than its worth
edit: im also just confused as hell because i know nothing about cars just drive them.. once you get into the ultra premium high dollar suspension parts, isnt there no such thing as a seperate shock and spring? i always get confused because theres different types of suspension setups. but you make it sound like i can keep the nice shocks you reccommend. and get some top end springs later. when i thought all of the top end was coilovers or maybe air suspension? or is springs another word for coilovers?
plus this z already has aftermarket control arms and maybe something else but i think thats it. apparently recently installed, prob why the shocks blown or whatevers wrong with it.
Last edited by luv350sass; 02-21-2023 at 03:46 PM.
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ps. does anybody have a link to a thread w mod lists of peoples heavily modified cars for certain uses? i plan on changing everything on this car over time once i get funds right. i have found some stuff like was looking at short shifters and found this
"inc short shift imho.
Diff brace (Bell Raceworks), diff bushings, vibra-technics engine mounts and gearbox mount."
you all are so full of knowledge that helps someone like me. i have no clue what to put on a car to make it ultimate,and go all out
"inc short shift imho.
Diff brace (Bell Raceworks), diff bushings, vibra-technics engine mounts and gearbox mount."
you all are so full of knowledge that helps someone like me. i have no clue what to put on a car to make it ultimate,and go all out