blew my motor im here in miami,fl. warranty wont cover it what should i do, anyone know any places in miami where i can maybe find a crashed z with a motor in it??

 

we're going to want some details on what happened and what specifically broke...

 

Why wouldnt it be covered . I dont see any mods that should break it . I would fight them on the coverage . And yes more info needed and wanted

 

refer to this thread for more info: https://my350z.com/forum/2003-2009-nissan-350z/126439-the-z-is-dead.html

 

details... i see a lot of mods in your sig.

 

I see helix test pipes in his sig......even though that would not blow a motor dealer can void warranty if they seen them on the car

 

The Magnusson Moss Warranty Act ( Federal Law) states that a dealer must prove in writing that a specific mod caused the damage specified before they can deny a warranty claim. Take it back with this law in your hands. If they get stupid hire a lawyer and have them handle the case. You can then have the dealer not only pay for the motor swap if you do it before the suit is over but you can request they pay the lawyer fees...Link to Magnusson Moss text...

http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?ID=8124

http://www.ptuning.com/html/faq.htm

 

yea i have my other forum but i was just wondering how many other people have blown the motor n/a you know, i mean this sux the dealer says that the magnusson law doesnt apply well at least the stupid service manager on the fone said that if it gives the car more hp than the magnusson law doesnt apply does that make any sense to you guys????

 

I haven't read the actual lettering of the warranty, but apparently there is never a definitive statement that "aftermarket parts will void your warranty"... the closest it comes is "unapproved modifications may allow Nissan to void your warranty"...

From MiaPlaya's links above:

The Magnusson-Moss Warranty - Federal Trade Commission Improvement Act of 1975 protects consumers from such fradulent activity by new car dealers. Under this Act, aftermarket equipment that improves performance does not void a vehicle manufacturer's orginial warranty, unless the warranty clearly states the addition of aftermarket equipment automatically voids your vehicle's warrany or if it can be proven that the aftermarket device is the direct cause of the failure. The easiest way to check this is to look in your owner's manual under, "what is not covered". Under Magnusson-Moss Act a dealer must prove, not just vocalize, that aftermarket equipment caused the need for repairs before they can deny warranty coverage. If they cannot prove such claim-or offer an explanation- it is your legal right to demand compliance with the warranty. The Federal Trade Commission (202.326.3128) administers the Magnusson-Moss Act and monitors compliance with warranty law.

 

tonio had the motor in his G35c blow NA

 

"automatically" is the key word in the MMW/FTCIA snippet above

 

how does the dealer "prove" that an aftermarket part caused another part to fail?

Are we talking about going into court and conducting some expensive car science experiment?

If you were the dealer, how would you "prove" those aftermarket parts caused engine failure?

I guess this is meaning that the customer will go in and say "ok pull out my engine, take it apart and find the part that broke."

They'd probably reply with hassle saying how you'd have to cover the labor cost of doing it if they can't bring up a strong enough case how your parts blew up the engine.

I think how the engine blew up will be key. They could claim that your aftermarket parts caused the ECU to react weird which led to it blow up the engine.

I don't think the Magnusson Moss Warranty Act will really come into play in any real way until you're in court...


why not try another dealer?

 

The only thing that I can find in the Nissan Warranty manual that automatically voids the warranty is if the car has been issued a "salvaged" title.

The only mention of aftermarket parts is with respect to items not being covered if they were damaged due to improperly installed Nissan or aftermarket parts.

In the case of test pipes, they dealer would have to claim and prove that the installation of those test pipes caused the engine failure. For example, if they had no O2 sensors installed, then the dealer would probably make the claim that the ECU could not properly monitor the engine operation due to the lack of the O2 sensor signals. That in turn caused the failure.

I can easily see where you could get into a major pissing and finger pointing contest with the dealer over this one.

 

so as long as any aftermarket parts were correctly installed, nissan has to foot the bill?

what about FI then?

obviously we know that won't be covered, but the way it's worded it sounds like it could be?

 

Dude, that sucks. Hope you can get it covered under warranty.
Can't really tell how the motor blew up. If it has something to do with oil starvation and the service advisor/mechanic is cool with you, they can probably say your oil pump was malfunctioning to get it covered...
Otherwise I have no idea why it would blow up, don't think hydrolock would cause it to crack like that, and i don't think you mentioned anything about driving in puddles, etc.

 

Technically yes it can cover things that are not affected. IE if the Master Cylinder housing cracks, or the Power steering pump dies, things like that they are still on the hook for as there is no way they can blame that on a turbo kit

 

hehe yeah, just wondering if you blow out your rods/block with a TT if you can go in and say "hey the engine failed, what's up with that?" you can then say you were on low boost etc..

I know, they'd probably just laugh at you

 

i'm not sure how mod friendly maroone is, but you might want to try calling up palm beach performance nissan and seeing if they can help you. it's a bit far, but getting your car towed there would cost a hell of a lot less than a new engine plus swap. they sell a bunch of aftermarket parts so i'd imagine they are mod friends. plus they are a sponser of the sfzcc, i believe.

other than that, there is a u-pull it in doral, and last time i passed by, which was a couple days ago, i saw a g35c there. saw it from a distance so i couldn't tell if the engine was there or not, but it couldn't hurt to try and check it out.

or you can buy a forged block from sgp and go fi.

 

Had my motor blow at around 16k. Dealer warrantied it.

 

wats sgp????