uplz4588

i just got my innovate standalone wideband LC1 installed at CJ motorsports... ibought it from sharif at www.forgedinternals.com

all i can say is that i love the thing, its verrrry easy to read at a quick glance and sampling rate is great. i dont have any pics right now, but ill try to get some.

ken350z

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Was it hard to install? How much did thay charge you?

uplz4588

it didnt come w/ enough of the headfone 3/32 wire so i had to go get a extender, other than that they said it wasnt that hard. charged me $104 to install which was 1.5 hours of labor

Jaki

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Glad to hear that you love yours. I also ordered the Innovate gauge from Sharif a few days ago, and I can't wait to get it!

uplz4588

when i had charles install mine, the way it was wired there wasnt enough of the 3/32 headfone wire. so i have to go out and buy an extenstion for it. right now the wire is exposed and running over my dash! haah but its fine when i get some time ill get an extention. either way its a great setup really easy to read even while at WOT you can quickly glance over and imediatly know where ur at. also the record feature is great.

Jaki

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^ Where do you get the extention from?

Altimat

How steady is the data at cruise and accelerating? My AEM is fairly erratic anywhere but at idle.

uplz4588

jaki - i havnt picked one up yet i havnt had time. im thinking radio shack should carry them.

altimat- its easy to read, it does bounce around a couple points but nothing big. and at WOT it does go rich but its still pretty easy to read

when you take your foot off/on the gas then it goes nuts but besides that its pretty easy

i have a question for you though. when your just cruising around does ur A/F sit in the 14.0-15 region? even when im cruising around at 3-4K its always in that area. its freaking me out because i dont want to be running lean. at WOT it goes rich but at part throttles i dunno if its supposed to act like that.

Hydrazine

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14.7 is the A/F target (stoichiometric) under cruise conditions. A chemically perfect balance of fuel and air to provide the cleanest burning combustion process.

The intent is to have only water vapor and carbondioxide as the combustion exhaust products.

Any A/F above 14.7 produces excessive oxides of nitrogen such as NO, NO2, N2O, N2O4, N2O3, N2O2, radicals and other nasty smog producers. Within a tolerance level, you should never see above 14.7 unless you have your foot off the gas.

Any A/F below 14.7 produces incomplete combustion of the hydrocarbons to form compounds such as CO, CH2O, CHx, H2, radicals, soot and other random organic junk. Going richer should only happen under loaded conditions.

Based on your description, it sounds like your Z is performing exactly as it should.

Sharif@Forged

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I had the AEM, and I can tell you the Innovate is much more stable, and provides a very high sampling rate, but doesnt zero out as often as the AEM one did. It's superior in every way.

I didnt have issues with short wire length. It might depend on how you route the wire through the firewall. I routed mine on the driver side, up the tranny housing, and through the driver's side hole in the firewall.

Here are some pics of two Innovate gauges (one for each bank) mounted on the crappy ATI steering wheel gauge pod (that I wholeheartedly DO NOT recommend)

uplz4588

yeah im pretty sure that charles went throught he passenger side because that is where the wires are comming from. and whats so bad about the ATI pod?