How do I find out if its legal?
09-05-2005, 11:05 AM
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How do I find out if its legal?
These headers do not remove the cats, but are not 50 state legal, check your area's regulations.
Referring to set of stillen headers.
What/where do I go looking?
TY
Referring to set of stillen headers.
What/where do I go looking?
TY
09-05-2005, 12:40 PM
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Stilen are NOT legal...
the only headers that are are the DC Sports... They are 50State CARB legal...
you can search here...
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
search EO number EO: D-370-12
NHC4201, NHS4201 2003-2004 Infiniti G35 3.5L ending letters: "B" = brushed finish, stainless flange; "S" = polished finish, stainless flange
NHC4201, NHS4201 2003-2004 Nissan 350Z 3.5L ending letters: "B" = brushed finish, stainless flange; "S" = polished finish, stainless flange
the onlything stillen has carb legal is the supercharger...
the only headers that are are the DC Sports... They are 50State CARB legal...
you can search here...
http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermk...es/amquery.php
search EO number EO: D-370-12
NHC4201, NHS4201 2003-2004 Infiniti G35 3.5L ending letters: "B" = brushed finish, stainless flange; "S" = polished finish, stainless flange
NHC4201, NHS4201 2003-2004 Nissan 350Z 3.5L ending letters: "B" = brushed finish, stainless flange; "S" = polished finish, stainless flange
the onlything stillen has carb legal is the supercharger...
09-05-2005, 12:49 PM
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CARB is based on very outdated over 30 year old laws that are in desperate need of being revised but there is no organization strong enough to have any pull in washington...
part of it is based on who is willing to spend the money, DC said yes we spend it...stillen said nope...it's all about the money
part of it is based on who is willing to spend the money, DC said yes we spend it...stillen said nope...it's all about the money
09-05-2005, 04:25 PM
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Good Information to have
Thank You very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are there more things frequently discussed on this forum that it should be pointed out that they are not CARB legal?
Thanks Again
Are there more things frequently discussed on this forum that it should be pointed out that they are not CARB legal?
Thanks Again
09-06-2005, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
parts have to go through alot of testing and processes to become carb approved...
So it's just a matter of bureaucracy and paperwork and/or time before the illegal one becomes legal...
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The CARB process is not an easy one to go through, nor is it cheap. To be honest, i think a lot of companies did not worry about going through the CARB process on their headers for the VQ35 engines, because of how hard it is to see them in the engine bay. It's not like a honda where you can see the headers right in the front plain as day......
I agree CARB is a lot of beurocracy, paperwork, and money, just for the state to pocket a little extra $$$........
I agree CARB is a lot of beurocracy, paperwork, and money, just for the state to pocket a little extra $$$........
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Originally Posted by Binictican
These headers do not remove the cats, but are not 50 state legal, check your area's regulations.
Referring to set of stillen headers.
What/where do I go looking?
TY
Referring to set of stillen headers.
What/where do I go looking?
TY
EO: D-370-12 from DC headers handy when you need inspection.
as stated below , no one can really visually inspect the headers on the VQ nor could they tell the diff and the diff will not cause any measurable diff in TP emissions. All the inspector "needs" is an EO#, to enter into the report and cover his ****.
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Originally Posted by JasonPerformance
the STILLEN have a badge on the bottom that says. "FOR RACE USE ONLY, NOT FOR STREET USE"
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09-08-2005, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
I have to let every one know of all the little things that will keep the car from passing...
If they purchase from me, and I dont let them know... Come smog time and they DONT pass... I hear it... :-/
If they purchase from me, and I dont let them know... Come smog time and they DONT pass... I hear it... :-/
It's just on the CARB paranoia front , headers are way down the food chain IMO.
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Originally Posted by G3po
Go aheaf and use the Stillen's if it floats your boat , keep the
EO: D-370-12 from DC headers handy when you need inspection.
as stated below , no one can really visually inspect the headers on the VQ nor could they tell the diff and the diff will not cause any measurable diff in TP emissions. All the inspector "needs" is an EO#, to enter into the report and cover his ****.
EO: D-370-12 from DC headers handy when you need inspection.
as stated below , no one can really visually inspect the headers on the VQ nor could they tell the diff and the diff will not cause any measurable diff in TP emissions. All the inspector "needs" is an EO#, to enter into the report and cover his ****.
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Usually, DC welds on a tag to their headers showing that they are CARB legal, along with the EO#. So far i have not seen any DC headers for the 350Z with this tag, however I am thinking that this is because they were actually produced and shipped prior to being carb approved. We had gotten a notice from DC Sports a few months ago announcing that they had been approved. You can contact DC Sports for a copy of their statement and EO# i believe.
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Originally Posted by the7ferret
Is thier a card of something that comes witht he headers that states the CARB #? If so whoever has it scan it and post it so us with DC lookalikes can simply print and show it to the inspector since they most likely wont know the difference.
But most people loose the card , or their "dog eats them".
All you really need is the EO# which can be gotten off the CARB website.
The inspectors (lgeti) I have used in Cali really just need that number to enter into the terminal. The number is unique to the product.
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