Hi.. im now looking for a clutch n flywheel combo..

Ive been told JWT is always good to go with..


But i also was looking at TILTON.. with a full street clutch and the 8lb flywheel..


I was told it was very loud and it sounds like a "cement mixer" ?

anyone have tilton or heard this?

opinions much appreciated

thanks

 

I have the JWT clutch and flywheel and it is great. Almost no cement mixer sound from mine....and it feels close to stock.

 

What type of setup are you running now? How much power, and what do you intend to do with the car later?

 

i plan on an APS TT kit...l with eagle rods, arias pistons, and studs for internal work..

as of right now.. i have injen intake the new one.. crawford plenum, UR crank pulley, invidia g200 dual exhaust, b&m short throw, and crawford cats..

what u think?

 

For built motors, and 500whp+, I would suggest the twin disc carbon clutches. They are the only type of clutch that can hold 500-1500whp while still maintaining easy slip/start driving manners.

We've found that anyone above 550whp should go with the triple disc, and everyone else can use the twin. If you drag race, ragardless, you might consider the heavier 1350kg pressure plate. That PP mated with the twin is good for 900whp.

 

well the tilton cant hold more than 300hp so if turbo is in your future you will have to make another suggestion.

 

all i know is im looking to be about 500 at the wheels.. thats about it..

how much are these flywheel and clutches.. i dont want to spend 2000k lol

name brands and prices for flywheel and clutches?

thanks

 

How much do you care about drivablilty on the street?

I run the RPS Max clutch (300ZX TT clutch) with the sprung 6 puck ceramic disc mated to the JWT Flywheel. It is not excessively hard to drive on the street, just takes a little getting used to because it is quite grabby (esp. when warm) and has a claimed 67% stiffer pedal feel. But it is a single disc clutch that is claimed to hold 700 flywheel tq. The sprung hub is a life saver, I couldn't imagine driving it with an unsprung hub, like many puck clutches.

IMHO you can't beat its holding power for the price you pay (Just under $1000 for my clutch, flywheel, and ss clutch line). Although, if I had the extra money I would have gone with the ATS Twin Disc hands down.

 

BTW, in order to run a 300ZX TT single disc clutch you MUST have the JWT flywheel. It has holes in it to mount both 350Z clutch and 300ZX TT clutches.

 

^^ Good Points^^^ The main benifits to the multi disc carbon, are easy pedal pressure, easy engagement, and very long clutch life, while still holding massive massive power. The solution that MP did is great, for those that dont mind some grabbiness, a stiffer pedal, or those on a tighter budget.

 

we can get Tilton Clutchs that will hold over 1200 RWHP...

A multi disc clutch will have faster engaugement then a single disc clutch... 3 disc will be more on off then a 2 disc, and 2 disc will be more then a single disc...

You can have a single disc clutch that will hold your HP but the clutch disc material will be Cerametallic so it will hold... Clutch Engaugement isnt as fast as a multi disc, but it will be very grabby being cerametallic...

 

The ATS triple actually has smoother engagement than the twin.

 

with carbon setups... they perform differently...

 

ATS is a carbon setup, is it not...

 

That's correct. It really is the only way to hold 600-1500whp while keeping very smooth engagement, and easy pedal pressure.

 

If price is a concern then I would go with the RPS clutch and flywheel. I have been running the Max Street clutch(MS-17909-ST) which is not a six puck and is only "supposed" to hold 550trq and it is very easy to drive. In the Supra circles it is a well known fact that RPS underrates their clutchs and they will handle much more than advertised(as much as 35%). I dynoed at 434hp and 474trq at 10.5psi and now am running 13psi on the same setup with no slip on DR's. I haven't launched the car very hard at the track(1.91 60ft) and ran a slow shifting 12.5 at 114. The clutch seems to be holding up but if it doesn't I will go to a 6 puck sprung. If money is no object then I would definitely go with a multiplate setup but for the money the RPS(or JWT) is a great deal.

 

whats the clutch diameter of the ATS...

more rotating mass makes for smoother engaugement as well... The further out the weight, the more rotating mass... that just helps make it smoother...

how long are those clutches lasting on a street driven car?

 

9 inch solid carbon discs....they are not mounted to a steel backing plate, like some of the other designs..such as Exedy.

ATS claims a service life twice that of a conventional clutch. If they are properly broken in, used on the street, AND matched to the power level of the car, they should last a very long time. Some of us...myself included...made the mistake of not anticipating the power we'd be making and went with the twin instead of a triple, or the twin with a heavier pressure plate. The twins with 1100kg pressure plates start to give up at about 550whp, whereas the triple will take nearly anything you can throw at it...at least 900whp.

 

I run the RPS Max Clutch and Flywheel with my APS TT and love it (this is coming from the semi street tilton) I used to wear the stock clutch out pretty quick when I was n/a but havent had any problems with this set up.

 

6-Puck or Street Disc, just for clarification purposes. The engagement of each is VERY different.