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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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After installing a few engine mods to an '05 350, I went and had it dynoed. The mods installed are: U/R underdrive pulleys, Stillen Cat Back exhaust, AAM plenum spacer, grounding kit, HKS air filter. Did 3 runs on the dyno and the best result was only 245 WHP. WTF !! I was hoping for at least 20 more considering that a stock 350 is usually putting down 235-240. Just wondering if my dyno #'s seem low or am I expecting to much from the mods. And what would be the recommendation to get the last 20 RWHP I'm looking for.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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If you don't have a baseline run on the same dyno theres nothing I can say....there are people making 210whp + baseline... . IF this was your case that would be a huge improvement...
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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Your dyno is right. 5 hp+ equals 15 hp at the crank.
Stock Z already has good exhaust, intakes
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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I just thought that there would be more with the mods I put in. The Stillen exhaust alone was supposed to give me 16 WHP.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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yeah for all you really know, your base line could have been like 200whp and you got a 42whp gain! jk that's an exageration, but you still don't know what stock Z's let alone YOUR stock Z dynos at stock.

Also, seems like the 2005 ECU doesno't react so well to intake mods
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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Could you scan and post the chart? Thanks.
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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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ya, how was your a/f?
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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And you have the grounding kit too? Actually, you really don't have enough performance mods to even overcome the tolerance or variance among dynos.

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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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every dyno is different... you cant really compare to others...
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 07:34 AM
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This is the whole point nothing else matters. If you don't have a baseline done in near the same conditions, you really can't tell how well your car did.

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If you don't have a baseline run on the same dyno theres nothing I can say....there are people making 210whp + baseline... . IF this was your case that would be a huge improvement...
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by duaxe_350z
Your dyno is right. 5 hp+ equals 15 hp at the crank.
Stock Z already has good exhaust, intakes

NO. What kind of drivetrain-loss calculation are you doing?

A 15% loss fro 15 hp is 12.75 whp.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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also, power gains from breathing mods on the z are not additive; that is, a 15hp exhaust+10hp plenum+ 5hp intake won't add up to 30hp increase on the dyno.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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IF you really want to know how much better your mods were and if you dont want to spend the money on DYNO's everytime you should really consider getting like a device like the GTech pro. Those are not as accurate as a dyno. But if you know you dyno'd at 287 and your GTech pro sais 270 and you add a mod on your car and after that it sais 274 you know you have gained 4HP so you know on a true dyno it will be 291. They are pretty accurate as far as that goes. Just a thought though.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:33 AM
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your going to continue to be disappointed with NA mods, performance wise. that's my experience.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by doo925
After installing a few engine mods to an '05 350, I went and had it dynoed. The mods installed are: U/R underdrive pulleys, Stillen Cat Back exhaust, AAM plenum spacer, grounding kit, HKS air filter. Did 3 runs on the dyno and the best result was only 245 WHP. WTF !! I was hoping for at least 20 more considering that a stock 350 is usually putting down 235-240. Just wondering if my dyno #'s seem low or am I expecting to much from the mods. And what would be the recommendation to get the last 20 RWHP I'm looking for.
6MT or 5AT?
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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Thats because you ran on 19's.
People ran 240+-whp on stock wheels.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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What dyno was this on ??
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
every dyno is different... you cant really compare to others...
Very true...I had mine dynoed with an INJEN CAI, Pulleys, and Stillen Cat-Back and ran 254 on a dynojet...

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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Thats not bad, given that SCC did a test of the Nismo R-Tune Z and made 249hp and 242tq. This is what the car had:

NISMO intake
NISMO headers
NISMO exhaust
NISMO cams
NISMO 21.6-lb. flywheel
NISMO clutch
NISMO 18-in. wheels

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/ro...0405scc_nismo/

After reading the article, I felt a little better with my results. All cars will dyno differently AND all dynos will read differently. 19" wheels will not necessarily make a huge difference in HP #'s.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Yup I ran 265whp on the dyno with my mods... see sig.
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