Right, I'd like to see what it'll do with some 93 octuned from another state as apposed to the California Crud I have to run.

 

Your not going to break 300 with the stock block, unless you have higher compression.

 

wow, man of little faith

 

I think you need to check your answer.

You put your dyno at 273whp.
You don't have the following and i'll be conservative
Tuning 10-15whp
Cams 15-20
Flywheel 2-5 due to lightening of rotational mass.

 

I have reason to believe that if I put my car on the same dynojet I had it on a few years ago it would break 300. But the load dyno it was tuned on is supposed to be dead on. I have been wanting to do that anyway just for chit's & grin's.

 

Yeah, that might get me over 300. I was mainly talking about the 287hp engine because that is what I figured he was refering to. 300rwhp might be possible without higher CR, but it is unlikely. I wish that these motors could get over 300 easy and respond really well to boltons, but it doesnt seem that way.

Also, how much power do you think some 110 octane would add?

 

Prob not much na unless your tuned or something. I wish it was like v8 motors bolt on this and that, hey 50rwhp not bad.

The new mustang, for 1000 bucks you can get 81rwhp. All they did was
Air intake 10 or 15whp
Muffler on the stock exhaust was 10 or 15whp
And a 50 shot of Nos.

 

The only way to take advantage of 110 octane would be advancing the timing. Otherwise it won't do very much.

 

I'm suprised you think 300 whp wouldn't be easy, seeing as you hit 255whp stock with your dyno.

And 110 octane won't do anything unless your tuned to take advantage of it.

JWT = 5whp $109
Y-pipe = 6-8whp ~$400
50 Shot NOS = 50whp

Thats roughly 60-65rwhp for around $1000. Its not too far off.

 

nitrous shouldn't really count though, unless u have an infinite supply of nitrous and are permanantly using it like gas.

 

Is reflashing the ECU from Technosquare considered tuning? Sorry I am new to modding and tuning. I am actually gonna dyno my car this friday.

 

I have the REV-UP motor and no one is really sure what they will do with cams and tuning, so I did not want to jump to conclusions.

 

I believe you would too. I dyno'd my car next door to SP before headers and had 244hp. Ted baselined at 238 w/ the headers. Just the difference in dyno's i guess.

 

Ive been considering attempting this myself instead of a vortech kit since i have access to 93 octane. Heck ive got pretty much every n/a mod already, all id really need is cams, flywheel/clutch/ crank pulley and a tune.

 

Awe yes that's the dynojet I'm talking about. The APEX Mustang shop dynojet.
I was 239 on that with the exhaust and intake and 229 with just JWT. On Ted's dyno the average for stock Z's, pre rev up, is 219. I wish he would have pre dyno'd mine because it already had the Borla duel and JWT. But those two dyno's aren't even in the same league.

I'm taking off the Kinetix plenum. It looks good and adds good gains but I can't live with the noise it makes. I really can't. I'm going to try the APS Tall Boy instead. Drat, I'll have to spend more and get a strut tower brace.

 

Right well I don't think it would be that much more. Just a couple extra hp that us N/A guys pay dearly for.

 

Zon,

You and I are close on mods. What are the lift and duration of your sp cams?

 

Im going all out on NA, Id like to set a bench mark for the Z N/A crowd. I will be starting, quite litteraly, from the top with a set of NISMO heads.

• Competition Heads
• Spec 2 Camshafts
• Lightweight Valvestem Set
• Valvespring Set

Then the block

• Espirte (sp?) High Compression Pistons
• Pauter Connecting Rods
• APR nuts n bolts...

Then the BPU goodies:

• Intake
• Headers
• Exhuast
• Test Pipe
• Clutch & Flywheel
• UR Pulley Set

Then eManage Ultimate and some serious dollars spent on tuning in between...

 

I am really interested in the AEBS stroker. I have heard some bad things about having the increase stroke with the crankshaft, but dont know if it would really matter all that much. Then others say to just not buy the crank and you can have a 4.0. Either way a 4.0 or 4.3 would really help with power.

 

287, this is going to sound like a cop out, and I will get flamed for this.
I am not at liberty to say right now. The Z is the SP N/A test bucket. Maybe when i get back from Malaysia pretty soon I can, I'll ask Ted. My Z has been there at SP for more tuning and testing since right before I came here early last month. We had a problem with the ECU and Unichip having a conflict. The ECU won. Ted told me a few weeks ago that that issue has been resolved and he actually got more whp out of it with the re-tune. But maybe you can call SP and Ted would just tell you, I don't know, I just don't have a green light yet. I can say that the idea behind these cams is to not sacrifice any torque anywhere. SP thinks sacrificing low end torque for high end hp is a big no no. So what we have is good gains in torque and hp everywhere. The cams are not loapy and I get a smooth stock like idle.

287 I was just thinking i would like to meet you after I get back. I live in Livermore but work in S.J. I haven't known anybody around the Bay Area with N/A mods like ours except for me. I would really like to meet you and see your Z too. Nice mods you have!!!