I'd like to thank you for not being a hater

welcome to the board, hope ya get a z that you want!

 

you dont have to do much at all! Plenum, exhaust, pop charger or none of that and just be a great driver.

 

wtf?
stock Z with the best driver cant beat a suburban mother just flooring her M3
cheapest way imo go nos

 

I raced one when i was n/a from a 2nd gear 40mph roll and we were dead even through out the end of 4th 110mph then we let off, the key is power shifting, there is hardly any delay time between shifts. Alberto also uses this method, and with his very few mods he runs 13.1.

 

Wow some of you guys have no faith in your Z's or you just havent seen what a properly driven Z can do with BOLT-ONS . I have a JWT pop charger, Crawford Plenum, UR CP, Test-pipes, Injen exhaust, and Technosquare ECU. I have spend a little under $2000 and I have walked every E46 M3 I have raced, SMG and 6-speeds,and even when Ive had a passenger and they didnt. I have also never seen an E46 trap higher than 105 mph at the same tracks I run at, which is 2mph slower than my best trap. Some of you need to stop dyno racing, really proves how much you dont know about cars or racing in general.

To the guy that said you need 46 more hp and the ones that agreed, stop spreading BS around<---also to the ones that cry S/C or Turbo so quickly-LEARN TO DRIVE YOUR FING CAR, you are the same guys running FI and going low to mid 13's at weak traps @ the track making Z's look bad. Why would we need 46more hp to run with or beat an M3? We weigh 200-250lbs LESS, that means we can run with them with LESS hp Look guys I have trapped 106-107mph with bolt-ons and a measly 262whp SAE corrected. That is right in E46 M3 GREAT driver territory, and I havent run into a guy that can drive his car down the strip like me <---not trying to toot my own horn just being honest.

To sum it up--all you need is bolt-ons, dont need headers, dont need cams, and you need to extract 100% out of your car and you can beat an E46 M3.

 

THANK YOU!!!! So many people under estimate the Z, the just have to learn how to DRIVE IT!!!!

 

Uhm, so I beat a vert M3 from a 40 roll...ok I wouldn't say beat, I pulled an insta-half-a-car and held that until 110 or so then we shut down....You don't need mega-mods to beat an M3, if you're a 6 spd learn how to drive your car and get a few breathing mods. If you're a 5AT looking to beat an M3 you have a lot of catching up to do.

 

Based on what everyone is saying about the M3's abilities, I have a 5AT and I feel pretty confident in my car's ability to take on an M3. Of course, it will help dramatically when I get the 3.9 final gear and UR Pulley!

 

Powershifting = danger
mishift = good f*cking game with the Z

 

Yea I dont get it either. I only have BorlaTD, Test pipes, KINETIX V4 plenum, and UR crank pulley. and i Walk stock M3s easy I also Pulled a 1/2 car on a I/E M3. You guys need to learn how to drive.

 

E36 M?
Your mods no way makes up for 47bhp and better gearing from the M car

 

I dont post here very much, but read the post all the time. There has been tons of talk about the M3 vs the Z. I own a Z now and almost went the route of the M3. I went out and looked into buying a 2004 coupe because I heard about the huge difference in power between the two. I was not blown away or disappointed. It is a great car, but not by any means a class behind or ahead of the Z. My car is with out a doubt faster than a stock M3, and all I have are bolt-ons. I am not new to cars so dont say it was me. The car before my 350 was a vette and a Cam. SS before that. Guys I am not saying the M3 is not a nice car it is, but not nice enough for me to walk away from my Z. When I had the Vette it was the same thing with the M. Weather or not a car is better than another depends on who you ask, and what is important to them. All of you guys who make statements like there is no way to keep up with a M3 are mistaken. Dont post that crap if you dont know for sure or have driven one yourself. Maybe you should have someone else drive your car with you in the pass. seat. I assure you it would blow your mind and you will see how fast the Z really is. Guys learn to drive your ride...

 

I dont know who has seen this, but check it out.


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...62891&q=nissan

 

Interesting video. I guess it shows that the M3 isn't ALL THAT. The 350z stayed consistent the whole time.

 

Powershifting = danger for a sorry a$$ driver that shouldnt be powershifting in the first place. If you cant or dont choose not to powershift thats up to you, but when properly done it is only slightly harder on your clutch than regular speed shifting. I have 53K on my stock clutch/fw with literally 1000's of powershifts, 6200 rpm clutch drops on slicks, and it still holds and chirps 3rd gear like its new. And a mis-shift in any car will be bad, again, if you drive well it wont happen.

 

I completely agree with you. It all comes down to the driver. I love going to the track and taking people out who think they are going to destroy me because their car is faster. Then they have a bad launch and sit at the light spinning for 5 seconds and they lose the race.

 

Drive Well

 

bea the hell out of an automatic m3. Don't know he year or anything ut it wasnt very fas

 

I still think M3's are one of the more over-rated cars out there. Hell even the last generation was sooo over-rated. 2 of my better friends own M3's and honestly they are not that much faster stock/stock.

I like the guys that post on here about how MT or so and so magazine has the M3 at 13.4 or whatever, the thing is guys, we are talking about a couple blinks of an eye here, .3-.4 secs.. Gimme a break that is why it IS a drivers race.
Anyone that doesn't have much racing experience will always fall back to the magazines.

And at the end of the day, 1 full second in a 1/4 mile is still only 3-4 car lengths... whoopie!

 

You added a "chip". You mean you purchased a Unichip or you physically added a chip. Nobody "adds chips" anymore. Your ECU gets tuned with a re-flash.

Now, if you purchased some sort of piggy back unit, fine.

Are you sure you know what you are talking about?