I have a black 350z 2005 and i added a chip but dont know what it exactly added,i have a k & N intake but i want to be able to just beet an m3!!!

 

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If you are talking drag race then yeah you are going to have to go supercharger or turbo to beat the new ones. If you are talking road race then a plenum and a set of Hotchkiss sways will pretty much keep an stock M3 in your mirror.

 

what kind of chip?

 

type-R badge chip is the best chip... +50bhp with no tune!
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drag race vs M3 yo need to match about 46 bhp at the crank but the M3 weighs more so you probably need to make up about 35-40bhp
to just beat a stock M3, force induction is overkill
Do alot bolt ons and test pipes + shed some weight off the car ?
Go with 17 inch light weigh rims too

 

You put a chip in but you don't what it does!

 

i just answered this in the intake exhaust forum in the thread "N/A mods"

Quote :

I've been looking into so many different options lately, N/A, SC, ST, TT...

I am one of those power-hungry guys on the board, but along the way I realized a few things. First of all, I don't care about the numbers as much as I care about pulling up next to that STI at the stoplight and ROASTING him. And what I care about more than that is being able to drive my car at the limit and not worrying about it blowing up on me... So I decided to go this route :

Injen CAI - dyno proven to put out the most hp

Plenum spacer - great power throughout the band

Custom exhaust - 2.5" piping with CarSound HFC's (same that Kinetix uses) going to 2 HKS Hi Power Ti mufflers, still deciding on an x-pipe or not, but I'm leaning towards using one

JWT Clutch/Flywheel combo - daily driveability, the flywheel is still heavy enough to where it won't be impossible to launch so it won't hurt me from a stop, and the clutch is more than enough for my N/A needs

3.9 Final Drive - I'm not going to go over 150mph and say, damn, I wish I could go faster.... And it definately gives me a HUGE boost in acceleration, which is what I'm concerned about since the only "racing" I might do is around town

Reflash - to up the rev limiter, adjust the A/F, and not that I care but to take off the top speed limiter

Piggyback - to tune all those mods together

Tires - I'm on track rims so I'll be wrapping them in KDW drag radials, 265's in the rear


With this I am confident that I'll stand more than a good chance against any E46 M3, STI, or EVO that tries to bring it.

 

you lucky you can get away with drag tires in tx.. here it rains then im done

 

There is no reason to get drag radials for the street with under 300whp. If you want traction just get some 275's or larger and bfg kd/kdw tires and you shouldn't have to worry about traction at all. If F/I is overkill, then so is drag radials.

 

What I have installed on my car would take a M3. My setup I paid total w/o FD. $1900... everything was used Except the plenum spacer.

 

#1 the M3 gets the power to the ground more efficiently.
#2 the M3 has a much larger powerband and better gearing.

Speed has more to do with time spent in the powerband then the max output.

I will cost you more money on "bolt on's" to beat a M3 then it would just going FI. It will take ALL the bolt on's you can find to consistently beat a stock M3 in a drag race.

 

Oh yah? It will take ALL the bolt on's you can find to consistently beat a stock M3 in a drag race

 

Bro, If your talking Street racing, Its a drivers race. Check Motor Trends 1/4 mile times. In the March 2004 issue they have the Z running 13.77 with a Stock 287 hp Z. The M3 Coupe 6sp runs 13.2, SMG 13.4, Convertible 13.6.

Just learn how to launch the car good. The numbers in MT are by professionals and even they cant get the same times consistently for any car. They give the best performance. Anything will happen in a street drag race.

Ex 1:I raced a M3 Convertible to about 100 and spanked it by 2 maybe 3 car lenghts.
Ex 2: I race my friends stock wrx and not an sti, I launched like a douche and lost.

In case of the M3, Will this always be the outcome? Hell no. Im sure he can spank my car, I spank his, we match even, he has a slight win, I have a slight win, Etc.

Drag racing is all about driver performance. That is the whole purpose of the sport, reaction time, good launch, fast shifting. The car cannot get these times themselves it is all up to the driver.

 

It's a helluva lot more then a damn drivers race, unless the M3 driver is a complete and total incompetent tard.


Sorry there is just worlds of diff between an M3 and a 350z, not so much an M3 roadster.

The Z stands the best chance at lower speeds, the VQ just doesn't do that great up high (everyone knows it, so why fight it. 100 traps barely for most stock Zs with 280-300 hp plz) The E36 M3 was doing this was only 240 hp and way less torque.

Yea I am a Z owner and I know what the car is good at and what it isn't. The M3 has so much more top end power then a 350z, you need quite a bit to bridge that gap.

 

Oh sorry for my post, I forgot that the M3 is the greatest car in the world; And that there is no way for a driver to beat a car with a .4 second difference in a quarter mile. Sorry everyone. I must be brain dead.

 

I agree, If your lucky. After having both (at the same time) an E46 M3 hard top (stock) and a g35 coupe with a Stillen stage 2 S/C and upgraded suspension and wheels and tires. The power of the G felt more "raw" and responsive than the M3, but weather I liked it (or liked to admit it) or not, the M3 was allmost identical in times, and felt better in the 1/8 mile, on the street, and on the (road race) track. I was shocked. I know that it had to be due to a better USE of power and engineering by the M3. Lets face it IMO, we ARE comparing apples to oranges here (dollar wise). I liked my M3 alot, but IMHO, dollar for dollar you can't beat a modded G35 coupe.(or a Z respectably)

 

I have an sti and m3. Tonight i was at the drag 1/4 near my house my friend in his m3 and my sti... my sti is heavily modded:

05 black Sti~AP stg II/91~Helix Catted DP~APS CAI~whiteline fsw/rsb~strut bar~30% tint all aroundrally armor flaps~2 12" kickers ~Dynamatt all over~kenwood competition speaker~Kartboy ss w/ tic bushings~ Borla "hush" catback~v1~hella supertones~staticX grounding kit~thermotec dp wrap~braille

But i took him hard. Then i raced a Z and it was like i was walking by him. Then on the track i raced a z with a supercharger, i have no clue what kind and i lack Z information sorry, but it was a closer race but still nothing. Honestly to contend with the STi (awd) i believe air induction would be needed. The m3 after 1/4 is a beast, that thing is made for the highway. understandably the m3 is way more expensive.. but the sti is not and a great bang for the buck. it is currently for sale, and i am interested in getting a Z and doing a TT package. Look in the classifieds for my listing. Enjoy your great cars, i love them.

 

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Save your money get a turbo 911 PORSCHE.