Has anyone really pulled 300rwhp yet on a N/A VQ?
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Originally Posted by Rickdogg
Then I guess people better downsize to 15's and put small tires on the rear to create less drag. They can also zero out the camber to get higher numbers than in real life street/race instances. This can all be manipulated dynojet or dynopack, but dynopack is more accurate when comparing one car's ACTUAL engine outpt from another on the same dyno on the same day than a dynojet.
I do see your point though about people confusing the two types of dynos, which is why I specifically mention it in my original post
I do see your point though about people confusing the two types of dynos, which is why I specifically mention it in my original post
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Ya guys we have hit 290 rwhp if you convert that to crank HP at a 17 percent loss which is standard for our cars it is 349.4. Mike did hit 301 with all our stuff and previously mentioned mods on a Dyno Jet but he was not with me at the dyno 2 weeks ago. The mods he had at the time which have been previously stated included a bored eng 20mm over we have been trying to get the 300 without boring the eng. We are still working on it and now we think we need bigger exhaust cams.
Dynojet also compensates for the tire circumference.
Dynojet also compensates for the tire circumference.
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Originally Posted by zillinois
Jack Businger is a guy we track with in Chicago. He has every mod plus Unitech header back exhaust, cjm fuel system and now he is getting the UTEC and tune. So I believe he will be the first dynojet over 300hp. I believe mjedens dyno was not accurate. Relatively good source told me that.
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Originally Posted by mcduck
yes, but he was also running nitrous which I think disqualifies his accomplishment from this discussion.
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im not sure but i think BJs car had 400 BHP and put something like 345 to the wheels NA! your talking about a purpose built race motor though still a stock VQ block revving to 7200, motec, cams, high comp pistons, rods, sleeves etc.
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Is there even someone that has all the full bolt ons and cams with head work done and some kind of engine management system to tune everything? Because i believe that should get you over 300 whp.
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Originally Posted by GAaaAR
Is there even someone that has all the full bolt ons and cams with head work done and some kind of engine management system to tune everything? Because i believe that should get you over 300 whp.
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Originally Posted by laswyguy
Didn't mjedens motor go kaboom..??
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Originally Posted by thawk408
Doug from Crawford Z has all that you listed, although his heads might be alittle to worked. He put down 290rwhp SAE corrected on a dynojet. But I believe that he will unlock the 300rwhp sometime in the future.
Is Doug's car tuned with a engine management system? Because i really believe the mods that Doug has should put him over 300 whp if it is tuned right.
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mjedens car dyno'd the 301 without nitrous....pure NA setup
I had the dyno at one point too...its somewhere in my archive of stuff
and yes, he did it without the benefit of on site programmable engine management...all in mailorder flashes over time - making it all the more impressive
I had the dyno at one point too...its somewhere in my archive of stuff
and yes, he did it without the benefit of on site programmable engine management...all in mailorder flashes over time - making it all the more impressive
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Originally Posted by GAaaAR
Is Doug's car tuned with a engine management system? Because i really believe the mods that Doug has should put him over 300 whp if it is tuned right.
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Doug from Crawford Z has all that you listed, although his heads might be alittle to worked. He put down 290rwhp SAE corrected on a dynojet. But I believe that he will unlock the 300rwhp sometime in the future.
With the VQ I dont see why it's so hard to get to 300WHP, a lot harder than I would ahve imagined.
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I dont understand why every one thinks 300 whp is NOT quite an accomplishment for a NA 3.5 liter motor. 300whp is 362bhp assuming a 17% loss, which is above the magical 100hp/liter number at 103, usually reserved for supercars. Only motors thats exceed 100bhp/liter NA are, bmw m engines, ferraris, the porchse gt3 motors. A standard 997 c2s 3.8 liter has 355bhp or 93.2bhp/liter. Even the best eurotuners have only been able to extract another 30 hp or so. Of course if you add a 1 or two blowdryers on any car, it changes everything, but were talking NA here.
Stock factory output from some of the finest (street, not race) motors below:
Ferrari 430, 4.3L, 480bhp = 111hp/L
BMW e46 M3(euro), 3.2L, 343bhp = 107hp/L
Porsche 996 GT3, 3.6L, 380bhp =105hp/L
Lambo Gallardo' 06, 5.0L, 520bhp= 104hp/L
BMW M5, 5.0L, 500bhp=100hp/L
Porshce 997s, 3.8L, 355hp =93hp/L
Aston Vanquish, 4.3L, 380hp= 88hp/L
Corvette z06 7.0L, 500hp/ =71hp/L
Stock factory output from some of the finest (street, not race) motors below:
Ferrari 430, 4.3L, 480bhp = 111hp/L
BMW e46 M3(euro), 3.2L, 343bhp = 107hp/L
Porsche 996 GT3, 3.6L, 380bhp =105hp/L
Lambo Gallardo' 06, 5.0L, 520bhp= 104hp/L
BMW M5, 5.0L, 500bhp=100hp/L
Porshce 997s, 3.8L, 355hp =93hp/L
Aston Vanquish, 4.3L, 380hp= 88hp/L
Corvette z06 7.0L, 500hp/ =71hp/L