Who has the highest HP N/A Z
05-10-2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
rickdogg has 296 NA...richie in australia has 285ish but dynos in australia read 25-30% drive train loss... he has massive NA work done, i expect hes around 330whp in the US... a few people are in the 290whp range...stock heads except cams.
Dynojet is the only way to see how much power you really have
05-10-2006, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by thawk408
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There are many different types of dynos and all will give a different reading then others. Dynopacks seem to read the highest from all that I have seen and personally dont think they rate rwhp very accuratly. I know Doug from Crawford Z has 292rwhp from a dynojet, but he also has some pretty radical custom cams. I would say 300rwhp is obtainable, but it is probably going to take a bump in the compression.
There are many different types of dynos and all will give a different reading then others. Dynopacks seem to read the highest from all that I have seen and personally dont think they rate rwhp very accuratly. I know Doug from Crawford Z has 292rwhp from a dynojet, but he also has some pretty radical custom cams. I would say 300rwhp is obtainable, but it is probably going to take a bump in the compression.
But my point being that if you don't do some major internals, achieving over 290 is going to be pretty far fetched on a load based dyno. Even the people that dyno there cars that high with out major internal work, usually have all kinds of weight reduction. Meaning no windows, no passenger seat, strip interior, etc.....
I still think the best measure is track times because no matter how fast your car is on a dyno its all about winning the race. To many 12 second cars with 13 second drivers.
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05-10-2006, 09:48 PM
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i forgot to mention that blacktuner (jermaine from turboxs) was able to get 305whp w/ boltons and UTEC. He however is a monster tuner and spent a few hours twidling the tune.
05-10-2006, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by plumpzz
i forgot to mention that blacktuner (jermaine from turboxs) was able to get 305whp w/ boltons and UTEC. He however is a monster tuner and spent a few hours twidling the tune.
05-11-2006, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by sja177
I think he just spent a few hours making that dyno on his computer...lol
Easy to say but hard to do......
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05-11-2006, 06:39 PM
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4.2-4.3 stroker, with ported heads/larger valves, cams, a PROPERLY designed intake manifold, headers, exhaust, and tuning, should make somewhere around 350-360whp.. and still be streetable..
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05-11-2006, 08:48 PM
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you will definitely get more HP from 4.2-4.3 strocker kit though...
as for my car, higher compression pistons, cams and other engine component... my engine pulls out around 347HP at the engine already (212.5rwKW)... so with the stroker kit, definitely close to 370 to 380 mark.
OK... and that's how we calculate the engine output on my car based on our aussie dynos...
Wheel power: 212.5rwKW = 284.75rwHP (with 19% drivetrain loss)
Engine Power: 284.75rwHP x 1.22 = 347.395HP
cheers,
richie
as for my car, higher compression pistons, cams and other engine component... my engine pulls out around 347HP at the engine already (212.5rwKW)... so with the stroker kit, definitely close to 370 to 380 mark.
OK... and that's how we calculate the engine output on my car based on our aussie dynos...
Wheel power: 212.5rwKW = 284.75rwHP (with 19% drivetrain loss)
Engine Power: 284.75rwHP x 1.22 = 347.395HP
cheers,
richie
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05-11-2006, 09:03 PM
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The new GT3 is at 410+ NA (probably bhp, but the engine is in the rear near the drivetrane, so less loss probably) Maybe 360-370 at the wheels?. I think it's a 3.6 or maybe 3.8. It can be done. It's supossed to be stupid fast too.
05-11-2006, 10:04 PM
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I think the 300hp engine will be more helpfull when it comes to hitting the 300rwhp mark. I have an 05 track with popcharger, crawford plenum, crawford headers, test pipes, and borla TD and I pulled a 282rwhp on a dynojet at the same shop that Doug did a 292rwhp on. I think if I had cams and a tune I would be at or near the 300rwhp mark.
05-12-2006, 12:12 PM
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no because you are ignorant
He does not need to photoshop his dyno - he gains nothing by it, and being that he is a long time personal friend, I also know he is not ethically challenged. All his dynos were done on the machine at his place - so while the baseline and final #'s might not be "fact" the gains are the gains...and the fact remains that he gained about 50 whp on his car with his mods and his tuning. Nothing to shake a stick at.
That being said, it is on a hub type dyno, and no I dont think it would quite get to that level on a more conventional Dynojet.
He does not need to photoshop his dyno - he gains nothing by it, and being that he is a long time personal friend, I also know he is not ethically challenged. All his dynos were done on the machine at his place - so while the baseline and final #'s might not be "fact" the gains are the gains...and the fact remains that he gained about 50 whp on his car with his mods and his tuning. Nothing to shake a stick at.
That being said, it is on a hub type dyno, and no I dont think it would quite get to that level on a more conventional Dynojet.
05-12-2006, 12:35 PM
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The new GT3 is at 410+ NA (probably bhp, but the engine is in the rear near the drivetrane, so less loss probably) Maybe 360-370 at the wheels?. I think it's a 3.6 or maybe 3.8. It can be done. It's supossed to be stupid fast too.
Comparing a VQ to a Carrera cup engine is just plain silly.
No way a VQ will ever get 115hp/L.
05-12-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Z350Lover
you will definitely get more HP from 4.2-4.3 strocker kit though...
as for my car, higher compression pistons, cams and other engine component... my engine pulls out around 347HP at the engine already (212.5rwKW)... so with the stroker kit, definitely close to 370 to 380 mark.
OK... and that's how we calculate the engine output on my car based on our aussie dynos...
Wheel power: 212.5rwKW = 284.75rwHP (with 19% drivetrain loss)
Engine Power: 284.75rwHP x 1.22 = 347.395HP
cheers,
richie
as for my car, higher compression pistons, cams and other engine component... my engine pulls out around 347HP at the engine already (212.5rwKW)... so with the stroker kit, definitely close to 370 to 380 mark.
OK... and that's how we calculate the engine output on my car based on our aussie dynos...
Wheel power: 212.5rwKW = 284.75rwHP (with 19% drivetrain loss)
Engine Power: 284.75rwHP x 1.22 = 347.395HP
cheers,
richie
19% is kinda high isn't it?
I was thinking more like 16-17%.
But i dont know anything!
05-12-2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by laswyguy
Comparing a VQ to a Carrera cup engine is just plain silly.
No way a VQ will ever get 115hp/L.
No way a VQ will ever get 115hp/L.
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New Duratec Cosworth prepared 2.3 full engine assembly (300 bhp spec) (YD8081)
Same as long engine assembly, with barrel throttle induction system, uprated engine internals, engine dress items (such as thermostat housing) ancilliaries (such as water pump) and front engine auxiliary drive (FEAD).
05-12-2006, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by OCG35Coupe
19% is kinda high isn't it?
I was thinking more like 16-17%.
But i dont know anything!
I was thinking more like 16-17%.
But i dont know anything!
cheers,
richie
05-12-2006, 05:38 PM
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if you noticed that car has ITB's, which can have a lot to do with it. ITB's, big cams, big headers, high comp, low rod to crank ratio ect. you can do a lot NA its just very expensive.
05-13-2006, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by laswyguy
Comparing a VQ to a Carrera cup engine is just plain silly.
No way a VQ will ever get 115hp/L.
No way a VQ will ever get 115hp/L.
05-13-2006, 07:17 PM
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I've been a passenger in both a 996 GT3 cup car and a 996 RSR. Damn fast. The GT3 actually sounds much better than the RSR. It would be fantastic to have that much power in a Z!