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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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Question Which Coilovers? Cusco, Tein, HKS, JIC...

Anyone had experience with these Coilovers? I have never heard of Cusco, but they apparently have 2 different sets for the Z already (found in www.gruppe-s.com). Any suggestions or comments on any of them? Thanks!
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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We prefer the Tein's and have used them on everything from Hondas to Supras and never had any problems. Plus for the money they are the best setup available.
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Which Coilovers? Cusco, Tein, HKS, JIC...

if you want a full race setup go with the JIC's (FLT-A2s). they're not as snazzy as the TIENS' EDFC, but they're great design for track...
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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Wink Thanks, TEINS seems to be the fav. on this board!!!

I want coilovers to eliminate the bounce and the adjustability to lower the car to my liking. I highly doubt I'll ever take my car to the track!!!
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Then the Tein Flex kit is for you . We have them on sale for $1770 .
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CUSCO also has a sway bar setup and more parts coming.
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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The Best way to reduce bounce and have adjustability. HKS - They are rated higher then the TEIN's for this particular application. You don't need the EDFC if your not going to track the vehicle unless you just want it as a showoff thing to have a little gadget to playwith. I would definately go with hypermax.

I have the TEIN's but I race, my buddy has the HKS much smoother day to day ride!
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Default I am leaning towards the HKS for the price as well, thanks!

Thanks for all the info.

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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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How does HKS comare to stock in stiffness? Is the lowest setting about stock, then you can firm it up from there, or is the lowest setting much softer than stock?

I'm not looking to go softer than stock, necessarily, just to have a better matched setup that will eliminate the bounce. I don't want to give up handling, but I don't have to rattle my teeth, either.
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Default Most coilovers have dampening adjustability!

You can probably find the setting that's right for you, Mannish Boy
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Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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How about some HKS HiperMax LS coilovers? These offer height adjustability, sportier shocks/springs than stock, yet a softer spring rate to maintain ride quality. We have a set in stock, come by if you want to check them out!

Also Cusco has just introduced a full titanium coilover with inverted strut design (much like the high performance Zero 2R's) for the 350Z! Please contact us for any questions - we are still waiting to recieve more details!

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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 02:27 AM
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Originally posted by gruppe-s mike
How about some HKS HiperMax LS coilovers? These offer height adjustability, sportier shocks/springs than stock, yet a softer spring rate to maintain ride quality.

Gary, can you tell us what the spring rates are on the Hipermax LS and on the stock car so we can get a better idea of relative difference in difference?
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Spring rate info, PLEASE!

Could someone please test their stock, and aftermarket spring rates an post the info. Want to know if it the springs are causing the concrete bounce. Or if a stiffer/softer shock is the cure.
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 05:45 AM
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I don't think anyone has the OEM spring rates. However, I imagine the OEM spring rates are something around 440F / 350R. As for the current aftermarket choices (all spring rates are in lb/in):

Tein Flex :: 671F / 671R
JIC FLT-A2 :: 560F / 673R
HKS Hipermax LS :: 448F / 448R
Nismo G-Attack :: ? / ?
Cusco Zero-1 :: ? / ?
Cusco Zero-2 :: ? / ?

Fill in the blanks if you know the answer (please).
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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TCL--The spring rates on the hipermax LS are 8kg F and 8kg R. Spring rates on the factory setup is a mystery still, i've been trying to source it down but no one knows. I'll be sure to post it up as soon as I find out.

To add to hedonists list--
Cusco Zero1 10kgF 7kgR
Cusco Zero2 10kgF 7kgR

I'm now on a mission to find the factory spring rates

Thanks guys,
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What are the differences between the two sets of Cuscos, then?
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Old Feb 12, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Mannishboy--Good question Heres the rundown.

Cusco Zero1--Hieght adjustable only, smaller piston size (piston size on these should be around 35mm judging from all their other zero1 applications), pillowball mounts included for both front and rear shocks.

Cusco Zero2--Hieght and Dampening adjustable, bigger piston size (closer to 45mm judging from all other zero2 applications), pillowball mounts F & R.

So the major difference is the dampening adjustability which helps in tuning the suspension even further. They are 6 way adjustable btw. Also, all Cusco coilovers are lowered via a bottom adjusting perch. So you are able to actually lower the whole shock into the bottom bracket to adjust vehicle height. The advantage of this is to keep the suspension travel the same when lowering the car. The Zero2R will have the same piston size as the zero2, but will be an inverted strut design.

I hope this helped you out
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Cusco Zero1 10kgF 7kgR
Cusco Zero2 10kgF 7kgR
Well, that's no good. The rears are way too soft in relation to the fronts. It's quite possible you'll be making the understeer worse with the Cusco setup.
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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:39 AM
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Hedonist,
That's what I was thinking too...WTF is up with those spring rates for the Cusco? Thus far, it seems like the JIC setup sounds the most promising, in terms of spring rates, adjustability, etc. What I want is something like the Mugen Lowdown setup that was available for the Type R. A five way adjustable spring and damper combo. I want something simple that still allows for a little less compromise than a straight non-adjustable or full coilover setup. I tried going the fully adjustable route in my R, and it was just a headache...started to not enjoy the car as much, because I was too busy F'ing with it to worry about actually driving and enjoying it! Anybody know of a slightly adjustable setup for our car?...ideally a 5 way single adjustable system with a set height and matching antiswaybars?
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