I've done the searching here car-parts.com etc etc but I'm not finding any priceing for a bare rebuildible short block(used rebuildible core). I going FI on the Z and want to build a stout bottom for her.

Machine work, parts etc I have covered but I'm spoiled I"m use to sub $1000 sportsman blocks that are new.


Whats the avarage that you have paid? Also are there any changes in the G35 vs 350z block. What about the SE-R altima VQ?
Lets all share some info for the DIY guys we have a bit of catching up to do on the 2jz guys etc.
Any info shared will be great and if your a shop please help us out I know you might not want to share but the more high power built Z cars out there the better off you'll be in the end trust me.

 

Under $1k may get you a decent set of rods and pistons.

Serious.

Most who have a shop perform a full build on their engines spend in the $3k-$6k area from what I've seen. It depends on what you want done.

Oh yeah, don't forget the heads & cams, too. That's extra.

 

Learn to read jackass. No cams on a short block that would be building a long block.

1. I have a small shop while this is my own personal project and I will not be replicating anything for sale I will be building the short block. "rebuildible CORE" That is what I'm looking for just a bare block.
2 Just a quick fyi a grand will get you a 302 sportsman block that will support 1000whp easy ( Thats a ford motor for the eye rollers)

I'm not trying to be a jerk but please read before you reply. I get so pissed at people like you that don't take the time to read what someone is asking.

Everyone needs to understand that while the VQ is not as simple as an old push rod V8 it's still just a motor not the space station.
I know it's so hard to digest so take a deep breath.
I respect the skill and reputation of the more notible builders on this site they earn every dime for the labor involved but I am in a position that I do not need to go that route.

I guess it's off to the junk yard with bubba to finds me one dem ther jap motors made of antimatter and plastic.

 

hey all u guys using the word "Jap" u all do know thats not something japanese ppl like to hear. its no different then using the "N" word... have some F***ing respect, or at least educate urself. i know ull prolly have some stupid excuse or not give a **** but its still ignorant!

 

Fu(k's your problem dude???? Though it may not be exactly what you wanted to read, no need to put the guy on blast. He did not disrespect you!!

So don't come in here with this Kumbaya, telling stories by the camp fire **** trying to rally up the DIY'ers and you can't even find a constructive way of letting people know that what they wrote is not what you expected to read.

 

First there is a reason you are not finding any rebuildable shortblocks sold buy companies.... THERE ARE NONE! You said the magic word "FORD" they have an almost unlimited supply of rebuildable shortblocks you can buy on the market. Hell There are probably as many shops that sell those block then there are actual VQ's in the us more less excess blocks for sale. The majority of the available blocks have been aquired by the major engine shops as stock. Yes you can get a Ford engine that will sustain high HP cheap, but its a closed deck iron block; just like Chevy's or the old Old's engines. You get any thing with an iron block 4 bolt mains and a forged crank you can put out stupid power.

The thing is there is not a single company that casts VQ blocks. Too much work involved. Your best bet would be to go to a junk yard and pull one from a less fortunate Z. Other wise your gonna have to suck it up and pull your own. Some times in life you cant have your cake and eat it too.

And for the record you did kinda come off a "ignorant" about the Z. Altima and and Maxima's both have transverse mounted VQ's. Which means it will not fit in the Z.

As for the 2JZ's I realy wouldnt say we have catching up to do as you put it. How long have they been out? The VQ35 has been out how long? Yep we have been doing great. In the 4 years the Z has been arround it has charged onto the scene power wise. We are making the same power NA as the Supra did comming out of the factory Turbo'd. When you go Turbo for Turbo the VQ makes more power per PSI than the 2JZ's.

You may want to look arround more for block spec's each iteration of the Z has diffrent blocks and heads, 03-04.5, 04.5-06, then the new HR motor comming out. There are several good threads about all the blocks and one good detailed one about the new specs of the HR with the refined crank girdle and all the other stuff concerning it.

Here is where the learning and getting familiar with your car comes in. Do some searching and lots of reading. All the information you asked is here I have persoanly seen many threads and commented on a few concerning them. Deffinately not trying to be a dick man, but the education about your car need to be a proactive desire to learn and understand. So not many people on here want too spoon feed noobs every time they ask the same questions, every month or so you have most of the questions resurfacing. So my advice take a look at the site fish arround and find your info then ask questions. That will prevent alot of flaming.

For the whole issue of your learn to read comment, definately it may not be what you want to here but thats realy the best way to go though. Cams will free up alot of power and upgraded head studs will aleviate alot of issues. The you have coolant mods like the pathfinder rear cylinder cooling mod and a few others. Once you get to a certain point its more effective to do a full build. Do some searching on issues with with built motors you'll save your self some head aches in the future.

Hope you find what your looking for man.

 

I have purchased a few complete longblocks for the $1200-1400 dollar range. THe last one was out of an 04 G35X. These motors are generally less than the 350Z engine and 99% identical to the 350Z motors. Any of the fwd platforms I would stay away from. Generally it is very tough to find just a shortblock at the wreckers unless the motor has a lot of top end damage from the car rear ending something. It's not a bad thing to have the spare top end parts anyhow. Plastic things like cross over pipes, valve covers, etc are big money to replace if they are damaged during engine removal/install.

 

I have looked on car-part at some rebuidable blocks and this is all I have come up with so far:

1. Nissan Pathfinders have VQ35's
2. According to my Nissan Dealer Head and Block are same part #'s as the Z/G
3. Still trying to get an answer on the crank
4. Pathfinder blocks are cheap!!

Hope this helps, and all of this is for non rev-up motors.

 

Excuse the **** out of me. I was barely able to hold my eyes open while trying to help your ignorant a$$ out last night.

For your information, I built a SBC longblock by myself for my Corvette 4 years before I even had my G. You don't have to explain to me wtf a shortblock is or a rebuildable core. Next time I won't go out of my way when I'm already exhausted to try to lend a hand.

 

Thank you G356gear and ACI318 for being the only ones that took the time to read my questions then try to answer them.
DTor you pissed me off with the eye rolling and the fact that I thought my post was clear in what I was asking. Sorry if I snaped back so hard at you it was a late night for me as well. Most circles that I talk cars with assume if your looking for a block(used rebuildible core) its because the person talking is building there own and understands how to make power.
Punish her. Thanks for the info and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before someone like Dart makes a VQ block. While doing a search I did not come up with what I was looking for and that was for new ideas not the "hey I just paid so and so this much for this" While I respect a tried and true approach to most things I'm the type to go against the grain and try something new knowing that i'm taking a risk. Also I'm not takeing offence to your comment but just beacuse a motor is transverse mounted doesn't allways mean you can't use it. Sure the tranny is junk but the block itself can be identical even if the the rest of the motor is different remember I am only looking for a bare block. I've never even seen a SE-R but I did remember reading that it used basically the same motor as the Z in some fourm I had looked at.

Lastly Yungmun. I'm not sure if your hypersensitive or did not understand the sarcasim of my comment and the fact that it's meaning was pokeing fun at the very people that you make think I may be. I'm not now nor will I ever be P.C so as much as I am sorry that you may have been offened you gotta kinda walk it off. This country was founded by many great ethnic backgrounds but least we not for get a freedom of speach ignorant or not.

Oh ya Dawg I'm just an hour up I85 stop by the fire is a 10:30 but it's BYOB.
(Before someone thinks I'm threating him we really are haveing a get together with the big red neck fire and all)

 

its all good i jus didnt want ne one on here getting offended.

 

2001-2004 Nissan Pathfinder (240 hp)
2001-2004 Infiniti QX4 (240 hp)
2002-2004 Infiniti I35 (255 hp)
2002- Nissan Altima (from 240 to 270 hp)
2002- Nissan Maxima (255 hp to 265 hp)
2002- Nissan Quest (240 hp)
2003- Nissan 350Z (from 287 to 301 hp)
2003- Infiniti G35 (260 hp to 306 hp)
2003- Infiniti FX35 (275 hp)
2006- Infiniti M35 (275 hp)
2004- Nissan Murano (Z50) (245 hp)

It would be nice to use the rest of this tread to see what on this list is of use and what is not. So at least for my needs(striped bare block).

 

Zap his dumb azz and tell him to bow down to a tru pimp ATL!

 

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Learn to read jackass.

Fu(k's your problem dude???? Though it may not be exactly what you wanted to read, no need to put the guy on blast. He did not disrespect you!!

So don't come in here with this Kumbaya, telling stories by the camp fire **** trying to rally up the DIY'ers and you can't even find a constructive way of letting people know that what they wrote is not what you expected to read.

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This is incorrect. The Pathfinder heads and block do NOT have the same part number as the Gen III VQ35 (Z/G/FX/etc.).

 

Yo miamimax96 are you sure. I called the dealer and he told me the #'s match. Not sure if the dealer did his job right, but I own an import shop and buy many stock nissan parts from them. Only reason I even thought of the pathfinder is beacause one of my buddies has one and we were thinking of putting JWT cams in there.

http://www.jimwolftechnology.com/customer_results.asp

 

Maybe you can buy my old one. Call Davis Moore Nissan in Kansas. They're putting in a new shortblock on my Z because it comsumes oil. Only 15k miles!!

 

that would be under warranty, so your block is going back to nissan.

FWD and RWD blocks are cast differently. the mount holes are cast farther back on the FWD blocks. A longblock out of a Z/G is probably your best bet. while you are builiding your short block, you can strip the heads and have them ported and have a built longblock wating to go back in.......