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Old 01-28-2007, 04:13 PM
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Hey guys I have just bought another VQ block and I am actually considering on going NA with this one. I have experience with turbo motors dealing with the 2JZ and VQTT but keeping in mind that power to dollar ratio is not my concern. I know that I will get more bang for the buck going w/ a forced induction setup yet I still want to do something different. I have eexperience with NA honda motors also.
When I say I want to go NA I mean full NA build a high compression bottom end, port polish heads, cutom intake mainfold, aggrsieve cams,titanium valve train,standalone and a mean *** tune. I was thinking of the crower stroker kit and looking to put 400hp to the ground.
I believe that is a realistic figure to be asking for 100hp per liter is not rediculouse in the NA world.

Any suggestions before I begin?
Old 01-28-2007, 04:28 PM
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that's a lot to ask and you might want to do a stroker kit while you're at it to make that kind of power. If I were you and looking for 400bhp with a nice power curve then I would just go with a Vortech.
Old 01-28-2007, 04:45 PM
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I don't know, I used to read quite a few Mustang magazines and don't remember ever reading about a 500+ hp 5.0 motor. So 400 from a 3.5 or 3.7, I don't know.
Old 01-28-2007, 05:05 PM
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Do it. PLEASE.
Old 01-28-2007, 05:14 PM
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Welcome, Id love to see this done!
Old 01-28-2007, 05:22 PM
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I'd love to see SOMEONE finally hit the elusive 300whp mark. I know its only a matter of time, and its gonna take someone w/ cashflow. That said, 100hp/L is gonna be tough. I for one love a good NA setup and sound/response that goes w/ it. If you have the funds and tuning ability please go for it and document the progress for us fellow members. A stroker would be badass for sure!
Old 01-28-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheezwiz
I don't know, I used to read quite a few Mustang magazines and don't remember ever reading about a 500+ hp 5.0 motor. So 400 from a 3.5 or 3.7, I don't know.
c'mon...appled and oranges...SOHC pushrod vs 4 cam V6. It's more than possible with a stroker, standalone, 7500revs, cammed, ported, oversized valved, etc, VQ motor.
Old 01-28-2007, 05:32 PM
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you waited a year to make your first post, that may be a record.
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thats called restraint!

he was gathering info! holler at this guy..
Old 01-28-2007, 06:07 PM
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LOL....thanks for noticing I have been loading my weapon with Ammo and took a year to finally give in!

a stroker is definitely the plan. I am going to spend 12K with my eyes closed to build a bottom end and a turbo kit, so why not spend the same 12 K and build a badass NA setup. the crower stroker will put me at just over 4.1 with oversized (100mm)pistons, that and some major head work, high revs, I really don't see why a vq could not put out 100hp/L...if honda does it why can't nissan...i.e. b16a 1.6L 160hp... f20c(s2000) stock puts out 120hpL at 240hp....
I think its more than do-able. most people would much rather spend their money on forced induction but I have been through my share of trials and tribulations with NA-T cars that I don't want to go through it again. I see the aftermarket potential and development of the vq. I have the longblock ready to be disassembled...
I also have the 6spd that Im going to have rebuilt so that I have a fresh tranny.

this will be a long project since I am going to fully build the motor before I even start looking for a shell. I should have the motor built and ready for the end of the summer.
Old 01-28-2007, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sean1967
you waited a year to make your first post, that may be a record.
I joined 1-20-04 and first posted on 01-13-2007.
Old 01-28-2007, 06:22 PM
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My Project just got stronger!!!! with the release of the 380RSZ in Japan rated at roughly 395hp tells me this is a sure thing. I m considering either doing the 07 dual intake system or ITB's.
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Good luck, but I don't think any of us will have the attention span to wait till the end of the summer! LOL
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Originally Posted by failsafe306
Good luck, but I don't think any of us will have the attention span to wait till the end of the summer! LOL
True that, I suggest figuring out the proper parts/info and just built it. Then surprise everyone w/ it after it's been completed and dont forget dyno results and videos!
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Honda does it by reving to all hell. N/A is crazy. Good luck
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This is a amazing goal you have set forth... N/A guys and myself can only hope that this build is successfull ! Im building an N/A set-up myself with a little less power in mind. My goal is to hit a solid and reliable 300whp mark for my DD street/tracked Z.
Old 01-28-2007, 07:39 PM
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Oh, BTW 400hp to the ground would be nearly 460+ crank HP so I think you need to adjust your goals a little.
Old 01-28-2007, 07:43 PM
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:29 PM
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sell the VQ35 and drop a LS1 in there, since you want an all motor car.
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Make sure you keep us informed with the build... I am in the same lane as you with doing research for an N/A build.. You definitely will need a new HEAD/CAM package and completely different intake system. ITB's would be the way to go. put some picks up along your build journey.. GOod luck



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