Notices
Engine & Drivetrain VQ Power and Delivery

VQ Oil Analysis and Info

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 3, 2009 | 07:05 PM
  #761  
ipodhustle's Avatar
ipodhustle
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 259
Likes: 1
From: southern cal
Default

Originally Posted by ipodhustle
anyone use the Mobil High Mileage yet?



ACEA A3

many on other forums have reported it being a stout oil and what not.
nobody eh?

Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 06:22 PM
  #762  
Nederlander75's Avatar
Nederlander75
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: Colorado, Denver Metro
Default

Correct, no one has tried it. Try it and runs some UOAs.
Reply
Old Mar 9, 2009 | 07:14 AM
  #763  
merlin3's Avatar
merlin3
New Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 383
Likes: 0
From: ohio
Default

getting ready to take car out of storage and do an oil change. Does the rotella t syn 5w40 work pretty well on stock blocks? I have greddy tt but haven't built the engine yet.
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 04:52 AM
  #764  
athenG's Avatar
athenG
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,252
Likes: 0
From: NYC
Default

/\ Check a few pages back for my latest analysis, Quadcam also had great result and both of us are on stock block.. Go for it. One thing I notice is that my oil still look very good/clean even after 2000+ miles of driving. When I used to use Mobile1 0W40, the oil is already dark when it reaches 2000miles.

Last edited by athenG; Mar 10, 2009 at 04:55 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 15, 2009 | 10:03 PM
  #765  
ipodhustle's Avatar
ipodhustle
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 259
Likes: 1
From: southern cal
Default

Originally Posted by athenG
/\ Check a few pages back for my latest analysis, Quadcam also had great result and both of us are on stock block.. Go for it. One thing I notice is that my oil still look very good/clean even after 2000+ miles of driving. When I used to use Mobile1 0W40, the oil is already dark when it reaches 2000miles.
that oil color change could also indicate the oil works because it changes color due to it getting out that sludge stuck inside your engine maybe?
Reply
Old Mar 16, 2009 | 07:40 PM
  #766  
Nederlander75's Avatar
Nederlander75
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: Colorado, Denver Metro
Default

Originally Posted by ipodhustle
that oil color change could also indicate the oil works because it changes color due to it getting out that sludge stuck inside your engine maybe?
Or the AOs are working effectively.
Reply
Old Mar 20, 2009 | 03:24 PM
  #767  
terrycs's Avatar
terrycs
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Default

I thought I'd add some data into this thread.

I have an 07 stock block HR-TT with about 21K miles, roughly 4K boosted. Sorry, I don't have exact mileages. The shop that did the work switched the oil out from the dyno that the dealerships use to M1.

Name:  D697691.jpg
Views: 239
Size:  167.9 KB
Reply
Old Mar 21, 2009 | 08:08 PM
  #768  
Nederlander75's Avatar
Nederlander75
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: Colorado, Denver Metro
Default

Originally Posted by terrycs
I thought I'd add some data into this thread.

I have an 07 stock block HR-TT with about 21K miles, roughly 4K boosted. Sorry, I don't have exact mileages. The shop that did the work switched the oil out from the dyno that the dealerships use to M1.

Did you have the M1 in for the "roughly" 4K?
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2009 | 06:50 AM
  #769  
terrycs's Avatar
terrycs
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Default

Yes. I was told M1 0-40 was in the crankcase when I got my car back. But I don't know how many times the oil was drained(?) while the build was happening.
Originally Posted by Nederlander75
Did you have the M1 in for the "roughly" 4K?
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2009 | 08:11 AM
  #770  
Nederlander75's Avatar
Nederlander75
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: Colorado, Denver Metro
Default

Originally Posted by terrycs
Yes. I was told M1 0-40 was in the crankcase when I got my car back. But I don't know how many times the oil was drained(?) while the build was happening.
With that kind of mileage the M! did real well, too well. From what Ive seen it shears to about 12cst and iron is a bit higher. Resample it again in another 3-4K. M1 0w40 again?
Reply
Old Mar 22, 2009 | 04:14 PM
  #771  
terrycs's Avatar
terrycs
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 165
Likes: 0
From: Southern California
Default

I put M1 0-40 back in with an M1 filter. You better believe I am watching it.
Originally Posted by Nederlander75
With that kind of mileage the M! did real well, too well. From what Ive seen it shears to about 12cst and iron is a bit higher. Resample it again in another 3-4K. M1 0w40 again?
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 09:05 AM
  #772  
whiggy's Avatar
whiggy
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: FL, USA
Default

OK, I read the whole 39 pages of this thread and the amount of info is amazing. Thanks to Resolute for doing all this, and thanks to everyone else for positng your UOAs.
Of course, as it happens, I do have a question :-P

I think I want to go with either GC 0w-30 (if I can find it), or Mobil1 0w-40.

I see that the Mobil1 0w-40 has great results but it seems that it's mostly guys running FI use it. Would it be suitable for my stock daily driver, driven fairly conservatively, in Florida, assuming a 5,000 mile OCI?

Also, would USA-made Castrol Syntec not be good for 5K-mile OCI?
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:18 PM
  #773  
Nederlander75's Avatar
Nederlander75
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: Colorado, Denver Metro
Default

Originally Posted by whiggy
OK, I read the whole 39 pages of this thread and the amount of info is amazing. Thanks to Resolute for doing all this, and thanks to everyone else for positng your UOAs.
Of course, as it happens, I do have a question :-P

I think I want to go with either GC 0w-30 (if I can find it), or Mobil1 0w-40.

I see that the Mobil1 0w-40 has great results but it seems that it's mostly guys running FI use it. Would it be suitable for my stock daily driver, driven fairly conservatively, in Florida, assuming a 5,000 mile OCI?

Also, would USA-made Castrol Syntec not be good for 5K-mile OCI?
Will and I have both run the M1 0w40 and we are stock. His are part of the tables at the front, I dont think mine for 5K are yet. I have it in now and will run for 7500. The Syntec hasnt done awful for 5K runs Ive seen, but there are much better oils for the money including regular old GTX.

Last edited by Nederlander75; Mar 24, 2009 at 07:15 AM.
Reply
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 06:28 PM
  #774  
Robert_K's Avatar
Robert_K
Didn't Go Cheap
Premier Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 12,390
Likes: 101
From: Spring, TX
Default

Sending out my most recent M1 10W30 to BlackStone tomorrow. Added Rotella and gonna give it 5k till my next change.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 06:40 PM
  #775  
ipodhustle's Avatar
ipodhustle
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 259
Likes: 1
From: southern cal
Default

Originally Posted by Nederlander75
Will and I have both run the M1 0w40 and we are stock. His are part of the tables at the front, I dont think mine for 5K are yet. I have it in now and will run for 7500. The Syntec hasnt done awful for 5K runs Ive seen, but there are much better oils for the money including regular old GTX.
you talkin bout syntec as in the 0w30 german? or just the regular 5w30/10w30?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:04 PM
  #776  
mthreat's Avatar
mthreat
Registered User
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 888
Likes: 1
From: Austin, TX
Default

Here's my oil analysis results. I think this is the first report for Torco oil. Here are the details:

Oil: Torco SR-1 10W30
Engine: VQ35DE, rebuilt
2600 miles on engine, 930 miles on this oil change (4th oil change)
Wiseco pistons, eagle rods, Cosworth bearings

Any info appreciated, especially comments from Resolute
Attached Thumbnails VQ Oil Analysis and Info-350z-oil-1.png  
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:14 PM
  #777  
Nederlander75's Avatar
Nederlander75
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 56
Likes: 0
From: Colorado, Denver Metro
Default

Originally Posted by ipodhustle
you talkin bout syntec as in the 0w30 german? Or just the regular 5w30/10w30?

gc excluded.
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:32 PM
  #778  
fordslowcus's Avatar
fordslowcus
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 534
Likes: 0
From: Lemoore, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by mthreat
Here's my oil analysis results. I think this is the first report for Torco oil. Here are the details:

Oil: Torco SR-1 10W30
Engine: VQ35DE, rebuilt
2600 miles on engine, 930 miles on this oil change (4th oil change)
Wiseco pistons, eagle rods, Cosworth bearings

Any info appreciated, especially comments from Resolute
Do you know where do they get their universal avg from? Other VQ35 engines or passanger automobiles in general?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:40 PM
  #779  
fordslowcus's Avatar
fordslowcus
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 534
Likes: 0
From: Lemoore, Ca
Default

I dont know how many samples you've submitted but as you can see your molyb stands out. MolyB is a type of grease used in engine components and most likely just a little excess from the regreasing of engine components.

I saw this is your 4th oil change. Have you been submitting samples for the previous 3? As your engine breaks in a lot of metal particulate will show up at first. As long as the trend is decreasing I'd say your doing fine.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2009 | 03:28 PM
  #780  
Resolute's Avatar
Resolute
Thread Starter
New Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 2,097
Likes: 3
From: @7000 ft
Default

Originally Posted by terrycs
I thought I'd add some data into this thread.

I have an 07 stock block HR-TT with about 21K miles, roughly 4K boosted. Sorry, I don't have exact mileages. The shop that did the work switched the oil out from the dyno that the dealerships use to M1.
The M1 sample looks very good. Like Nederlander75 posted, most M1 0W-40 samples are shear stable as a heavy 30 weight oil, and therefore show up in a UOA as a high 12.xx cSt viscosity. My own sample with 3200 miles (albeit with 410 track miles) being a typical example. The P amount is low for M1 0W-40 as well. What is really weird, however; is how your M1 0W-40 has very little boron in it. While the other M1 0W-40 samples all show a healthy dose of borate esters, your sample is lacking. Same for Molybdenum, where your sample shows about a third of the average amount of moly used in the M1 0W-40 formula. The calcium level is also well outside of the standard deviation for the average amount contained in M1 0W-40. Either this is some new formula of M1 0W-40, or it is not M1 0W-40.

As far as wear is concerned, the values all look very good for a TT engine with 4k miles of use.

The high Si and Sodium are a concern. Neither are used as part of the additive package in M1 0W-40, so this is not normal levels for this oil. First, and most obvious, is double check the air filters and vacuum hoses for any leaks to allow these elements to be ingested into the crankcase. There are a number of other ways these elements could become elevated in an oil sample, but check the obvious solutions first and get another UOA during your next change to check trending.

Will
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:08 AM.