LSD into base model Z
Originally Posted by helldorado
You can't drift with the Quaife. The quaife only locks up when torque is applied, meaning you're stepping on the gas. Similar to a 1 way locking differential. The quaife biases torque, it doesn't lock. It functions as an open diff when you're not applying power to it. Who thinks they can drift with an open diff? 
You really need a 1.5 or 2 way locking diff to drift. That way its locking on both acceleration and deceleration. 1.5 way will have lighter lock tendencies on deceleration than a 2 way and is more streetable.
Best value, get the Nismo. Its an effective unit and includes all the parts you need, but it has the roughest engagement. Not overly civilized. Otherwise toss up between Cusco and ATS, but you'll need to source the axle stubs, side bearings, etc... which is going to add extra costs over the already more expensive units.
You really need a 1.5 or 2 way locking diff to drift. That way its locking on both acceleration and deceleration. 1.5 way will have lighter lock tendencies on deceleration than a 2 way and is more streetable.
Best value, get the Nismo. Its an effective unit and includes all the parts you need, but it has the roughest engagement. Not overly civilized. Otherwise toss up between Cusco and ATS, but you'll need to source the axle stubs, side bearings, etc... which is going to add extra costs over the already more expensive units.
Quaife on my Z as well. I've only tested it on a road course and street, never drifted or autox with it.
On the track, it's flawless.
I can see how a clutch type LSD would be better for drifting though as the quaife does loose it's effect when you lift one of the rear wheels. Power slides happen so smoothly though that as said above by streetracer, it might work great for drfiting too.
I'll be trying it out at an autox event soon.
On the track, it's flawless.
I can see how a clutch type LSD would be better for drifting though as the quaife does loose it's effect when you lift one of the rear wheels. Power slides happen so smoothly though that as said above by streetracer, it might work great for drfiting too.
I'll be trying it out at an autox event soon.
Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
you can drift with an open diff just fine....a locked diff just makes it easier
Originally Posted by streetracer
Thats funny. I have the Quaife and the car drifts like a MTF...
But that's not saying you can't break the back end free with a Quaife and light both tires up. That's pretty easy to do if you really want to do it. But just spinning your tires and going sideways by flooring the throttle isn't drifting.
Originally Posted by helldorado
I have one as well. Why I said its not a drifting diff. As soon as you let off the gas after inducing wheelspin, it freewheels and its very hard to sustain the slide. Little bit harder to modulate that way.
But that's not saying you can't break the back end free with a Quaife and light both tires up. That's pretty easy to do if you really want to do it. But just spinning your tires and going sideways by flooring the throttle isn't drifting.
But that's not saying you can't break the back end free with a Quaife and light both tires up. That's pretty easy to do if you really want to do it. But just spinning your tires and going sideways by flooring the throttle isn't drifting.
Originally Posted by streetracer
Point noted as well. I thought drifting was a short slide also. Anyways, my use is for the Solo 1 racing. Racing teams here use the Quaife after switching from the Nismo.
Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
couple of options
Quaife - great for street cars, cars with some moderate track use. Can't comment on its drift prowess, never used it. Quietest one out of ANY made, no additional parts needed when installing into a base. Downside is if one wheel loses traction, bye bye lsd action and hello push. Not what I'd personally use on an all out track car, but also comes down to user preference.
Quaife:
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2349
Cusco RS - same diff I use in my car. More flexibility than the Quiafe in that you can adjust lockup (60%, 80%, 100% - I run 50% and recommend this for most use), and can adjust from 1.5 way (street and track) to 2 way (drift). Same diffs the Signal drift cars use, among many, many others. Once you switch to synthetic fluid (after 500-1000 miles), performs great...no excessive noises or clunks. In my car now since 2003 - one of my most favorite mods.
Cusco (install packs listed for base and non base models): http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ine&prodid=518
NISMO - similar levels of adjustment to the Cusco but all in all more "obnoxious" - louder and grabbier, regardless of the fluid you use. Upside, its cost, downside, it's day to day civility. Least street friendly of the bunch due to the noise and overall manners. We sell it, but not on our site for some reason (I'll fix that!)
ATS/Carbonetics - very quiet, carbon based LSD. Upside is its very smooth, and very quiet and civilized. Downside, no adjustability. Great for high hp cars, and would do well in drift scenarios as well.
ATS/Carbonetics (prices listed with and without install kits needed for base model cars): http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2106
I've used all of them in various cars. Overall I prefer the Cusco as its the most versatile, and gives reasonable civility and simply works great. Next up would be a toss up between Carbonetics and Quaife - for drift I'd tend to go Carbonetics, for the least intrusive (in terms of lack of noise, etc) Id say Quaife
All excellent units overall, just refer to the above for useage
Adam
Quaife - great for street cars, cars with some moderate track use. Can't comment on its drift prowess, never used it. Quietest one out of ANY made, no additional parts needed when installing into a base. Downside is if one wheel loses traction, bye bye lsd action and hello push. Not what I'd personally use on an all out track car, but also comes down to user preference.
Quaife:
http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2349
Cusco RS - same diff I use in my car. More flexibility than the Quiafe in that you can adjust lockup (60%, 80%, 100% - I run 50% and recommend this for most use), and can adjust from 1.5 way (street and track) to 2 way (drift). Same diffs the Signal drift cars use, among many, many others. Once you switch to synthetic fluid (after 500-1000 miles), performs great...no excessive noises or clunks. In my car now since 2003 - one of my most favorite mods.
Cusco (install packs listed for base and non base models): http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ine&prodid=518
NISMO - similar levels of adjustment to the Cusco but all in all more "obnoxious" - louder and grabbier, regardless of the fluid you use. Upside, its cost, downside, it's day to day civility. Least street friendly of the bunch due to the noise and overall manners. We sell it, but not on our site for some reason (I'll fix that!)
ATS/Carbonetics - very quiet, carbon based LSD. Upside is its very smooth, and very quiet and civilized. Downside, no adjustability. Great for high hp cars, and would do well in drift scenarios as well.
ATS/Carbonetics (prices listed with and without install kits needed for base model cars): http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ne&prodid=2106
I've used all of them in various cars. Overall I prefer the Cusco as its the most versatile, and gives reasonable civility and simply works great. Next up would be a toss up between Carbonetics and Quaife - for drift I'd tend to go Carbonetics, for the least intrusive (in terms of lack of noise, etc) Id say Quaife
All excellent units overall, just refer to the above for useage
Adam
im in a pickle myself on what lsd to choose. im almost 100% sold on the quaife just because of the lack of maintenance and track usage. i dont drift and dont want to but i do want to drag race. would the quaife work well for dragging?
Originally Posted by bofa
Most informative post I've read all week. Can you list the parts provided in the Install kits for base and non-base?
bearings, seals and axle stubs...we prepacked them together to make it a painless process for customers
Originally Posted by 240sx2jz
im in a pickle myself on what lsd to choose. im almost 100% sold on the quaife just because of the lack of maintenance and track usage. i dont drift and dont want to but i do want to drag race. would the quaife work well for dragging?
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