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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:34 AM
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Yea there's no way a stock 06 ran 265hp on the dyno unless it was pretty well modded.I ran my friends 06 from a dig and roll i walked away by a car and a half easy.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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Well, if it makes you guys feel better. Here's my '06 - stock/modded. Although my best stock baseline was 215, not sure why 211 hp was printed on there...

Breather mods installed by Forged Perf about two weeks ago include:

JWT Pop Charger
MREV 2
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I still feel 240hp is kinda low for the mods I have plus a dyno tune. So - I think I may go back to the stock '06 airbox (the pop charger seems to be susceptible to heat-soak), get some headers, and another tune.

As a side note - I took the car in yesterday to a friend's shop to have the intake, plenum, and exhaust checked for leaks. It was neat how they checked it. They plugged one of the exhaust tips, and hooked up a smoke machine at the plenum vacuum line. Then they filled it up with compessed uv reactive smoke.

We checked for leaks with a uv light - It turns out there was a fairly large smoke leak where the left HFC bolted to the exhaust, clearly seen without the uv light. So they fixed it, and it definitely sounds & runs better now.

This dyno + tune was done before the leaky exhaust was properly diagnosed & fixed.
Attached Thumbnails Stock 06 Dyno-dyno.jpg  

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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sharif@Forged
This is definately a DJ corrected number...no doubt about it. I really hate it when shops do this...it diminishes the hard work that we do, and also cheapens the Dyno Dynamics is a precision tuning tool. 265whp is absolutely not possible on a bone stock 06, on the Dyno Dynamics....I am calling 100% BS on this one.

I also have to call BS, my 06 which has the following mods run a 247hp on Sharif's Heart-Breaker Dyno:

JWT Popcharger
Crawford V5 Plenum
Turbo XS Test Pipes
HKS True duel Exhaust

Archbishop, is your friend running Nitrous? If not I think there is a problem with that dyno and he may what to run it on another dyno. Just my

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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by blasian

There is a member here who said he ran a 07 in his 06 from a roll and at higher speeds it slowly walked away.
Slowly?? Was the 06 modded?? Cause I ran a stock 06 in my stock 07 and it was never close, I always had about 3-4 car lengths...and we only went up to 120 and I just kept pulling and pulling, next time we'll take it up to 160...and see if the revup and catch up a little, i doubt it lol.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ZLadie2000
Slowly?? Was the 06 modded?? Cause I ran a stock 06 in my stock 07 and it was never close, I always had about 3-4 car lengths...and we only went up to 120 and I just kept pulling and pulling, next time we'll take it up to 160...and see if the revup and catch up a little, i doubt it lol.
Thats what he said but I guess slowly can be interpreted differently. He pretty much said he had no wait to catch up but he said it pulled away slowly then pulled hard as they increased speed.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Sorry to say bro, your friend is BS about the dyno...he is modded
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Old May 3, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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For god's sake, it's not all about the fuking numbers.

As Sharif said, the numbers look like they have a correction factor built in.

All of you people in here crying foul, you have no clue WTF you're talking about.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Factory tune? No mods, no utec? No reflash? On a Dyno Dynamics, he's pulling harder than an HR by about 15 horses. I'm thinking... Not stock he ain't.
i've seen several stock HR's pulling 265. hes modded though for sure. the new HR's were dynoed on NEW SAE standards. its registered at 306 but if they were dynod on the same standards as the earlier VQ's they would register like 320. They have alot more than us :[ and TQ...well thats where theyre relatively rediculous. 268 throughout like the entire rev range basically

Originally Posted by gothchick
Well, if it makes you guys feel better. Here's my '06 - stock/modded. Although my best stock baseline was 215, not sure why 211 hp was printed on there...

Breather mods installed by Forged Perf about two weeks ago include:

JWT Pop Charger
MREV 2
ISO CU 5/16 Spacer
Random Tech Hi Flow Cats
HKS TD Exhaust
UTEC
Dyno Tune

I still feel 240hp is kinda low for the mods I have plus a dyno tune. So - I think I may go back to the stock '06 airbox (the pop charger seems to be susceptible to heat-soak), get some headers, and another tune.

As a side note - I took the car in yesterday to a friend's shop to have the intake, plenum, and exhaust checked for leaks. It was neat how they checked it. They plugged one of the exhaust tips, and hooked up a smoke machine at the plenum vacuum line. Then they filled it up with compessed uv reactive smoke.

We checked for any leaks with a uv light - It turns out there was a fairly large smoke leak where the left HFC bolted to the exhaust, clearly seen without the uv light. So they fixed it, and it definitely sounds & runs better now.

This dyno + tune was done before the leaky exhaust was properly diagnosed & fixed.
losing 80 some-odd horsepower through the tranny stock? that sounds a little bogus. I really dislike dyno's, theyre too flakey. everything should be compared using track times around road courses!

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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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I dynoed my 06 bone stock on a dyno jet 251.8 whp.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by TONY2
I dynoed my 06 bone stock on a dyno jet 251.8 whp.
Converting that to a Dyno Dynamics = 223.39 whp

But again comparing numbers bewteen dynos is kinda pointless (except for general reference), since there are too many variables involved.

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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ke0ki2k
i've seen several stock HR's pulling 265. hes modded though for sure. the new HR's were dynoed on NEW SAE standards. its registered at 306 but if they were dynod on the same standards as the earlier VQ's they would register like 320. They have alot more than us :[ and TQ...well thats where theyre relatively rediculous. 268 throughout like the entire rev range basically

Since the HRs dyno about 20-25 more hp to the wheels then the older VQ engines, shouldnt that be about 30-35 more hp at the crank, meaning if it was measured with the old SAE standards wouldnt it be registered at like 330-335 hp? Or was the 20-25 more hp at the wheels not include the 06 rev-up enigne?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ssnake86
Since the HRs dyno about 20-25 more hp to the wheels then the older VQ engines, shouldnt that be about 30-35 more hp at the crank, meaning if it was measured with the old SAE standards wouldnt it be registered at like 330-335 hp? Or was the 20-25 more hp at the wheels not include the 06 rev-up enigne?
They have around 30-35 more engine hp yes. The HR motor should be in the 330 old hp rating range. It traps 104 by magazines and thats pretty damn good in my book.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
They have around 30-35 more engine hp yes. The HR motor should be in the 330 old hp rating range. It traps 104 by magazines and thats pretty damn good in my book.

The thing about the HR is that it has a wide range of high RPMs near peak HP.

So, the peak HP number did not necessarily jump up that high. But they definitely improved upper range torque to stretch that power band into the upper RPM range. All that extra area under the curve explains the amazing trap speeds.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
The thing about the HR is that it has a wide range of high RPMs near peak HP.

So, the peak HP number did not necessarily jump up that high. But they definitely improved upper range torque to stretch that power band into the upper RPM range. All that extra area under the curve explains the amazing trap speeds.
At LACR dragway, I trapped higher with my stock REVUP plenum compared to my MREV and others with MREV2's.

The HR motor does have more torque but then again it has more peak hp and it has a higher redline which puts the next gear in it's sweet spot.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
For god's sake, it's not all about the fuking numbers.

As Sharif said, the numbers look like they have a correction factor built in.

All of you people in here crying foul, you have no clue WTF you're talking about.
Thanks. And the car is 100% stock.

Btw, I thought Dynos broke down like this:

235-245hp 287hp Z
240-250hp Rev up

260+ Hr
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ZLadie2000
Slowly?? Was the 06 modded?? Cause I ran a stock 06 in my stock 07 and it was never close, I always had about 3-4 car lengths...and we only went up to 120 and I just kept pulling and pulling, next time we'll take it up to 160...and see if the revup and catch up a little, i doubt it lol.
Im calling BS on this.. You mighta pulled 3-4 cars but it wasnt the car.. It was the driver.. yes the 07 is faster than the 06.. But not that much...
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by BabyZiLLa
Im calling BS on this.. You mighta pulled 3-4 cars but it wasnt the car.. It was the driver.. yes the 07 is faster than the 06.. But not that much...
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Old May 6, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
churches is to the hub not the wheels. Don't get too happy.
werrd. churches is good for dynotuning and monitoring gains but for shear numbers dont get too happy. i made 281 with my bolts ons but no way was i claiming that as my true rwhp numbers.
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