Is anyone else with the oil consumption problem irritated that they cant mod? i mean not even performance mods, every time i think about doing something, be it cosmetic or suspension, i always think "damn, what if this v2 isnt the answer and i have to file a lemon or something and they for some damned reason try to instigate a reason from the mods, such as racing or using the car in a manner not supposed to (wahtever that could mean)"...the safest "mod" i can think of is just new wheels and tires, so so far thats all i have (am getting)

 

if they tell you that then it is BS. the Z is a sports car it is made to be raced. if they tell you that they will not buy it back because you made it look like a race car then we are headed to hell.

 

V2 isn't the answer. Talked to a Nissan Master Tech today. He's one of the members of 350zen.org. Said Nissan still hasn't come up with a permanent fix. In fact, his dealership has been ordered not to do any more engine swaps until a permanent fix is found. Nissan is apparently blaming a new supplier in Mexico who made the pistons and rods.

 

Well that's what Nissan gets for outsourcing the most important part of a car, the motor. Way to go Ghosn, WAY TO GO!

 

i swear man wth was nissan thinking?

 

If I have the money a few years down the road I was thinking of maybe a Vortech or something but with the consumption I had and still have to a smaller extent, that ain't gonna happen, unless it gets fixed.

I was thinking of trying to get my money back/sue/ lemon law etc. on the Z in the beggining but I had already started modding so that was that.

 

ihavent started modding yet....but if i worse comes to worst...i really dont know what i would get to replace the Z...i dont like the new 07+ Zs cuz of the hood...and i dont want a used Z....and IMO the Z right now is the only car in my price range that meets my liking for performance and appearance.

 

+1 that was the other reason why I didn't try to get my money back because it was the car I wanted, performance, looks, handeling, price wise, etc. In all of it's oil gulping glory

 

same here my 06 about 1 qt every thousand havent gone to nissan yet but going to

 

how about worrying about the oil consumption problem 1st as n taking it somewhere to get it checked out other than dealer. .to get a 1st opinion. .then taking it to the dealer and getting their opinion. .once the oil problems solved i'd say worry about modding. .or you might just be wasting money if. .they decide to replace the engine and parts are installed. .

One ? tho. .is your Z blowing Blue smoke from exhaust?

 

I also think taking it to a non-Nissan shop might be a good idea, depending on how honest and cooperative your Nissan shop is. For instance I have a 2006 rev-up motor and this past summer I thought I noticed that the oil level on the dipstick was decreasing each week. I would check it every couple mornings before starting it up for the first time, and I noticed that it was getting towards the bottom 'L'. So I went to the dealer for an oil change and asked them to measure the amount of oil that drained out of the engine because I suspected that I might have a consumption issue. So they come out 15 minutes later and say "...there isn't anything wrong, the oil level on the dipstick is fine." At this point I thought these guys were morons because of course the oil level on the dipstick will look normal after you just drove the car into the garage! And on top of that they didn't actually tell me how much oil came out. I really want to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, but to me it seemed like they were shirking their responsibility and trying to dodge the issue. So in this case I think it would be good to take it to the local auto shop, or DIY, and see how much is there. You couldn't use that evidence as leverage against Nissan in a legal sense, but at least you would know whether the issue actually exists so that when you approach Nissan you know you're right.

 

i dont understand...dont dealers WANT to see customers come in with oil consumption problems so they can get paid bit $$$$ to install a new engine? Help me out on this one....?

 

my theory is that dealer's are not troubleshooter's. .so lets say they swap your engine and the same problem occurs. .yeah you'll be stoked to get another new engine. .but at what cost? time. .less driving the car. .i like to get opinions so yes i kno what to say as far as information b4 going to the dealer. .you never know tho. .sometimes an honest garage mechanic may figure out the problem and you won't have to even step foot on the dealer's property. .but in my case i would like an answer to why it's happening..not. ".oh you need a new engine"

 

I heard this same thing too. I just wonder if they will find the fix before our warranties expire.


I was toying with the idea of going FI someday after the warranty runs out but not with this oil gulping pig.

 

just have them do an oil consumption test. That's what I did and got a new shortblock. Still uses oil though but not quite as bad.

I'm waiting to see if they find a fix before the warranty expires. If they don't I will be demanding an entire new motor, well before the warranty expires.

 

That's what I did last time, but it seems like the words "Oil Consumption Test" did not register. I will try again....I am due for an oil change in a couple of weeks.

 

look everyone keeps saying oil consumption. .but has anyone noticed where the oils going?. .is the car burning the oil? (blue smoke from exhaust) is the car loosing oil, like does anyone see spots or dripping if they park it same spots?. .reason i ask is cause older Benz's say 92-98 always have a rear head gasket leak external. .so oil comes out not antifreeze. and its very minimal to maybe a qt loss for every few months depending. ..and my ? is if you guys can pin point yourselves the problem or symptoms that may look like the cause would be great. .

 

Nissan gets a discount [33%] on warranty labor hours vs customer paid hours for the exact same work. Compare Mitchell's to Warranty book

The tech who gets the job hates the world because he makes less.
If you are use to 60 paid hours per week and you get only 40 for working 55-60.
The dealership hates the customer because it gets paid less and the tech might be more profitably assigned.

Nissan is good compared to Toyota and domestics which try to pay HALF!

A smart move is to tip the tech when ever warranty work is done to try to make up some of the money he loses don't tip the service writer or dealership it won't help the guy who is doing the real work.

On a 15 hour job the tech is losing 5 x $25 =$125 adjust for taxes and $100 really speaks VERY loudly! Heck $50 shows you understand the working guy.

The problem with warranty engines/trannies [big items] is the dealership doesn't make as much because Nissan just ships one in prepaid..............parts profit is lost just a small stipend.

Owners must understand how things work at dealers to get the best experience.

 

?. .when should we tip the tech. . after he does the crappy job that he's pissed off at. .or b4 he even touches my car??

 

To me oil is $2 per quart and if you add 1 quart per 1000 miles thats only $200 per 100,000 miles, hardly worth getting excited about. Considering the gasoline will cost over $17,000 in that period and use, insurance, tag, tax, interest,depreciation will be $55,000.

I buy all my oil by the case or 200 gallons at a time.

Even 1 quart every 250 miles won't be $800 over 5 years.