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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Sorry I can't really make any recommendations as we don't have any revup cams. There is no such thing as a cam that is pure top end without any affect to the bottom end - it's always a balancing act
would it be possible to "balance" bottom end trq loss by adjusting cam angle/timing? (and headers)... It's been my plan, but I'm certainly no expert...

Using Osiris for the cam angle btw...
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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absolutely possible since thats what altering the vtc angles (cam timing) does, but it is always going to be that balancing act
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 04:07 PM
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well i understand not pure top end, just sayin mid-range and top. sorry about that. JWT also has a C8R cam for the Rev-up thats is a 272 in, and a 272 ex.
And im getting really lost on what to use for this setup with everything i have being N/A. Utec with V-manage? i know nothing about the greddy V-manage....let me know guys.... thank you
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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not much to the v-manage, just adjusts the vtc angle, only does intake cam IIRC since the exhaust is magnetically altered (right?)
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 10:18 PM
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theres a lot that you wouldnt do that 99% of experienced VQ'ers would, like tune a car with VVT using utec. instead of spending the extra $4000 to get VVT control, get a UTEC and V-manage and be done.
Or you can use Osiris like he is smart guy
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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Question: would it be possible to gain loadsamount of power with some meth thrown in there. lol that would be a nice track car
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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I don't think meth would prove very useful on an NA car. I have very limited experience with it on forced induction, so I'm sure there are better people to answer the questions. I'm just not a personal fan of any artificial add ons like meth, nos, etc....just not my thing
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
absolutely possible since thats what altering the vtc angles (cam timing) does, but it is always going to be that balancing act
that's what I thought... indeed - it will be excessive tweaking... I have an offer for free dyno tune once the cams and header are in - so I'm hopeful the "idea" will be worthwhile...
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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I don't think meth would prove very useful on an NA car. I have very limited experience with it on forced induction, so I'm sure there are better people to answer the questions. I'm just not a personal fan of any artificial add ons like meth, nos, etc....just not my thing
+1!!!! cheater gas (liquid) I hate racing people and having them post up big numbers and a win claiming NA - without mentioning they were squeezing/squirting… all motor is ALL MOTOR!
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Originally Posted by KA24DE
Or you can use Osiris like he is smart guy
osiris doesnt give you control of the cams, its a flash. if one day you decide to change the cam angles, you cant just do it. osiris probly gets you to a good spot in your cam control, but nothing beats a car specific dyno tune
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by KA24DE
Or you can use Osiris like he is smart guy
osiris doesnt give you control of the cams, its a flash. if one day you decide to change the cam angles, you cant just do it. osiris probly gets you to a good spot in your cam control, but nothing beats a car specific dyno tune
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
osiris doesnt give you control of the cams, its a flash. if one day you decide to change the cam angles, you cant just do it. osiris probly gets you to a good spot in your cam control, but nothing beats a car specific dyno tune

Osiris does let you control you cam angles. That is what was used to tune my car. I picked up 20+ rwhp just by changing the cam advance.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
osiris doesnt give you control of the cams, its a flash. if one day you decide to change the cam angles, you cant just do it. osiris probly gets you to a good spot in your cam control, but nothing beats a car specific dyno tune
Yes it does.

The real-time-tuner version of Osiris does give real time control of the cams. It is currently being used by several pro tuner shops and an end-user version is in beta.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoooper
osiris doesnt give you control of the cams, its a flash. if one day you decide to change the cam angles, you cant just do it. osiris probly gets you to a good spot in your cam control, but nothing beats a car specific dyno tune
I already have Osiris - my OEM cams have already been adjusted... it was dyno tuned and the after market cams and headers will be dyno tuned with Osiris... thanks for your concern though.
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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the end-user does but the tuner doesnt. once you leave the shop you cant change it, you have to go back. what i meant is that you have it changed, but you cant change it whenever you want. now that i think of it that probly doesnt really matter to most people though. im used to myself, where i change my tune just about every week so sometimes i dont think about the typical user
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OCG35
thanks for your concern though.
any time
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Old Jul 18, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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whats the average cost of getting cams,springs, and retainers put in at a shop? ideas? thanks again....
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