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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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Default Looking for A/F Guage. .any Suggestions?

i've looked around and searched but no 1 threads talks about what's a good guage to buy. .my buddy has an EVO and has the aem $300 guage that comes with an o2 sensor. .but i think i'd have to tap my exhaust to install it. .im not looking to do that, although he tells me that it's the best one out. .anyone have an idea?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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You're looking for a AF gauge that doesn't tap into the TP/Cat/HFC/Exhaust??
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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INNOVATE
http://www.performancefactory.com/st...369d5533ca824e

AEM
http://www.performancefactory.com/st...0f4ddeecfdc016

You are going to have to tap into the test pipes. PM Black Guy (Performance Factory)on here and he can set you up with whatever you need
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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yeah thats the AEM guage i was talking about. .and yeah i was trying to get the most accurate one with out tapping it into my exhaust. .if there is only the narrow band one's then i guess i'll just have to tap my exhaust. .thanx for those links. .
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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You have Narrow Band O2 sensors in your Z. You'll have to Tap. AEM and Innovate are popular.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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yeah i figured. .here is a thought that i was thinking about. .lets say i don't tap the exhaust.. but i use the existing hole for the new sensor and from that i splice the signal wire together with my OG sensor in order to get a reading for my ECU(of course i'd be powering it as well). .could that be doable?. .it's just a thought but it might work. .

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Again, You do NOT have wideband Sensors, just narrowband.
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just get an exhaust shop to and a bung to your test pipes, doesn't cost much then you can install the wideband yourself
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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i can bung it and all myself. .just didnt wanna have to tap into it is all. .ahhhh. .oh well ima have to bight the big one. .thanx!
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:00 PM
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hmm. .i was just thinking on this topic as well. .say i get the AEM with the sensor. .it's only going to read out one side of my engine not both sides although 1 side should be significant, but on this topic im not sure. . .any info on that for me?
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Most people run just one. I believe there is a small/negligible difference between the sides. Some will run the duals, it The Tech does.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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PLX is another good wideband. I ran a few of them and worked great.

You can try replacing one of the stockers with the wideband all in all, but on a stock ECU it might get some hiccups.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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you will have to install a bung or weld it in. I have a welded bung on my test pipe. If you want it to be accurate, you will have to do it this way.
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Old Jan 28, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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always in stock

AEM: http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...mt&prodid=1760

Innovate offers a few types: check them out here:

http://www.z1auto.com/submodel.asp?m...cat=enginemgmt

we're offering 10% off all website pricing on Innovate right now as well

And lastly, we have a PLX M300 in stock we're letting go super cheap:

http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...mt&prodid=1554

Usually $349 shipped, will let it go for $310 shipped
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Old Jan 29, 2008 | 04:12 AM
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ohh man. .now thanks to HAL over at Z1. .. i now have 3 choices. .damn you!! haha. .so it's between the AEM~PLX~INNOVATIVE. . .which would you guys get??
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I'm Adam...no idea who HAL is

All are excellent units, at the end of the day it depends what you want it to do and where you want to mount it

If you want a straight forward gauge with no extra features, the AEM is awesome - far and away the most popular one we sell. The Innovate and PLX units are a bit more feature heavy for logging, etc.
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I'm Adam...no idea who HAL is

All are excellent units, at the end of the day it depends what you want it to do and where you want to mount it

If you want a straight forward gauge with no extra features, the AEM is awesome - far and away the most popular one we sell. The Innovate and PLX units are a bit more feature heavy for logging, etc.
sorry. .i got a PM that said HAL. .was all. .perhaps might of been someone diff, but no matter thank you as well Adam. . .now here's a ?. .the plx m300 says that it replaces your stock narrow band sensor. .does this mean that you remove the original sensor and plug in the plx sensor and it works both for ecu and the plx unit. .orrrr. .i see a section of more info but i cannot click on it. .so im a tad confused. .cause if im right and it does do what i think. .IM SOLD!!!! cause i really don't wanna tap n weld a bung into my exhaust. .unless i really have to! heh. .

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all the info is on our website:

http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...mt&prodid=1554

I've never used it to replace the factory sensor on a Z, only on Evo/STi/WRX. Not sure how/if that would work on a Z since a Z has 4 sensors total due it it being a V series engine
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but it's capable of replacing the o2's on the car correct?. .well tell me this. .when you replace it on those other car's you've mentions say on an evo 4 example. .do you still plug in signal wire's for the ecu's readings for no CEL?. like is there a plug on the unit for the original o2 to be pluged into. .yes no. .or do you connect signal wires somehow. .how would you do it? .. . .

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As I said I have no idea if it is capable of doing it on a Z or not - I would tend to say no, since a Z has 4 sensors total, vs 2 for inline/flat engines our customers have used them on.

For any wideband on a Z, count on welding a bung in and running your own sensor- at least that's how I would do it, to prevent any signal degredation, potential ecu issues, etc.

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