well some of us would like to know...if i only saw a 16 whp gain from being untuned to tuned i am f***ed. and since i am running a similar set up to him i wuold like to know the DJ numbers since its easier to relate. there isnt alot of posted info on setups like this one, most deal with high dollar and extensive builds n/a builds. its either alota info on bolton setups or alota info on full n/a builds but hardly any info on mild n/a builds and tq conversions would be awesome too

 

instead of always asking everyone for their dynos, when are you going to post yours? All these claims of what you've made both hp and torque but never a sheet to show it (not being rude, just curious to see). The gains from the tune here are very much in line with what one should reasonably expect given the mods

 

I am not sure what people expecting from an NA tune. IMHO, anything above 15whp from NA tuning (not counting the effects from the mods alone) is exceptional. Most straight NA tunes produce about 10-15whp. Now, if you include the gains acheived from the bolt on mods, AND tuning...it more like 40-45whp improvement.

But you have to seperate the tuning gains, from the NA bolt on gains. We also use the best pre-tune run, and best post-tune run. Some people or shop owners will compare the worst baseline, to the best post-tune, and this makes the net gains appear much higher.

Find an honest shop, and a good tuner, and you will be happy with the results. When people call and ask me how much to expect from tuning alone...I tell them the same thing...10-15whp.

 

they are posted on another z board....so use your google and doo it!

i put down exactly 268/263. sorry i guesstimated 270/265 (OOPS 2whp off, sue me). so use your google button(ie google word like; baby_ruiner, red star performance....). im not going to take away from this thread. i gained 28whp and 28tq from tuning(baseline was was 240/235 with mods untuned). i have yet to get tuned on my new setup but it is similar to dude buddy's bc im awaiting dyno time at red star.

 

How the hell is he supposed to google it. I suppose he can just look for a dynograph with 268whp and 263wtq

Agreed with Sharif... most NA tunes seem to be around 10-15whp.

 

i was in no way bashing you, i was just relating a story with another atlanta import shop. I intially took my car to topspeed inc in north atlanta and all they could get out of the car was 247whp and a jacked up AFR on their DJ (they actually told me Dj read the lowest out of all dynos el oh el). With only a 7whp gain i thought i strange, took it to red star, pulled up the map and found they jacked a map off another z. Eli at red star corrected my AFR and the car put down high 260 pulls multiple times. thats all i feel like going into bc im headed to the gym but if you go on another z tech forum youll find the dynos and my blog.

 

+1

I gained 17 rwhp with tuning just A/F and timing. Couldn't make anymore power even by adding more timing on 109 octane.

 

im sure he knows what the other z tech forums are. they are less traveled in respects to this one so it isnt hard to find. if i have time ill make a thread if i feel compeled, but out of respect to rbfd i wont ***** his thread. perhaps when i get tuned next week ill post that dyno in here well since it will be regarding bolt ons and cams.....

 

I'd be willin to offer a free "after" test on our dyno if you'd like. I have always done the comparos the other way around...>DD first...then DJ.

Might be nice to try a DJ to DD comparo.

 

I found the thread, but there is only 1 dyno chart posted that I see and it's not the one I was interested in seeing...oh well, not worth spending an afternoon looking for. If you find it again, would love to see it, so post it up

 

thanks for the offer, i dont have the time but maybe my bf will, its about to be a stout high 400-low 500 whp n/a ls2 when she gets done sometime next week. i know he will be down for it.

 

sorry to keep the threadjack going, but are you saying you are using your baseline from ONE shop, and the after from another, on a different day as your before and after to get the large gains from tuning?

 

no it baselined the same at redstar as it did at top speed. eli didnt include the baseline on the final copy of pulls he sent me, i think he was tired for being on the dyno 6 hrs.

 

BTW rbfd - you going to ZDays? Would be good to go for some comparison runs between your car, _jb and mine so you guys can see what you're missing Maybe while the FI guys do their airport thing

 

Congrats man!

 

haha.... Go easy.....rbfd is still a stock block and heads.

 

You don't have the time but you expect someone else to go to a DJ and provide you some data? You can't provide a link to your own dyno sheet?

Who does have the time? Sharif? Hell no, but he offered to do it - and free!

 

Or you could run an FI car and see what your missing

 

Hey guys, it would be nice to see you at the airport thing - I think Dil has opened it up to any Z/G. An NA build would be great to run against. All different power levels will be there, despite what the title implies...

 

the grass is always greener someplace...we could go to the Ferrari meet and then all be jealous lolol

I've already run both TN and Vortech cars on stock blocks...I'm not missing anything. To run with the big boys, all I'd need to do is bring my old school Z