My ghetto attempt at Ram Air
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Good attempt, but wouldn't it be easier to just get the injen if you like the filter up front? Now air needs to be channeled through the grill, down and around, up through 3 bends and then to the manifold. The injen has about 1 real bend and wider piping, no?
Best innovation i've seen so far has been the bodykits with the nostril up front for the stock intake box. That seems like an ultimate ram air, but I have yet to hear of anyone report any NA gains from it. Obviously it wouldn't perform as well on the dyno as the track (in motion).
Another doubt i'm having regarding my AEM (or Injen) intake tubing is the aluminum piping. After some heavy driving the metal gets too hot to touch. We need to think of someway to insulate it... I'm sure the piping really heats up the air. Whats the point of a CAI which heats the cold air it brings in.
Keep innovating tho, this is great stuff.
Best innovation i've seen so far has been the bodykits with the nostril up front for the stock intake box. That seems like an ultimate ram air, but I have yet to hear of anyone report any NA gains from it. Obviously it wouldn't perform as well on the dyno as the track (in motion).
Another doubt i'm having regarding my AEM (or Injen) intake tubing is the aluminum piping. After some heavy driving the metal gets too hot to touch. We need to think of someway to insulate it... I'm sure the piping really heats up the air. Whats the point of a CAI which heats the cold air it brings in.
Keep innovating tho, this is great stuff.
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Have you considered using RSA's flexible tubing? I believe they come in variable sizes up to 4" in diameter. But then that would mean you would need a larger filter. Here's a website
http://www.hypertuned.com/
http://www.hypertuned.com/
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Regardless of what others might say, I commend you. You took your new car and tried to improve upon it with the least amount of $ possible. It may not look pretty but it's still in the experimental stages, right. How do you think companies like HKS and PE got there start in the aftermarket business? Keep up the good work! Just make sure it looks a little less like it got beat with the ugly stick, LOL.
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Regardless of what others might say, I commend you. You took your new car and tried to improve upon it with the least amount of $ possible. It may not look pretty but it's still in the experimental stages, right. How do you think companies like HKS and PE got there start in the aftermarket business? Keep up the good work! Just make sure it looks a little less like it got beat with the ugly stick, LOL.
Regardless of what others might say, I commend you. You took your new car and tried to improve upon it with the least amount of $ possible. It may not look pretty but it's still in the experimental stages, right. How do you think companies like HKS and PE got there start in the aftermarket business? Keep up the good work! Just make sure it looks a little less like it got beat with the ugly stick, LOL.
Thanks, i know it does not look like much. Like i said i was just trying to get ideas from you guys of how to make it better, and so far i have a few more. Going to redo the scoop by using fiberglass to mold a better one, and going to use some exhaust pipe insted of the flex tube. Thanks again for you help
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Hey if you have ever seen real road race cars you've seen how stuff looks a little rough. That corrugated dryer hose for intakes and brake pipes, stuff zip tied everywhere. etc. So now you're car is more racecar like, heh heh heh
I wonder if we shouldn't just do like the M3s do. They have the ram air type intake like we do facing forward, then another air opening in the bottom of the airbox with a pipe that runs down to one of the brake ducts to pull in cold air from down low.
I wonder if we shouldn't just do like the M3s do. They have the ram air type intake like we do facing forward, then another air opening in the bottom of the airbox with a pipe that runs down to one of the brake ducts to pull in cold air from down low.
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I made a home made RAM-AIR for my last car and got CONSISTENT 2 mph and .2 seconds off on the 1/ mile. That equates to about a 20 hp gain. Not a measly 1-4....
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the small gain in ram air pressure is most likely negated during it's extended length travel through the hose up to the plenum.
Also FWIW, ram air doesn't really have much of an effect until you are at speeds in excess of 70-100mph. And that's for a properly designed flow tested unit.
I think this mod will have zero effect on 1/4 mile times and autoX style driving.
Also FWIW, ram air doesn't really have much of an effect until you are at speeds in excess of 70-100mph. And that's for a properly designed flow tested unit.
I think this mod will have zero effect on 1/4 mile times and autoX style driving.
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IMO- I think that it is to close to the ground, for the gains your going to get amybe 1 or 2 hp more. It is not worth taking in some water unless you intend on getting an AEM bypass.
Well good luck on your project.
Well good luck on your project.
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Re: Just buy the Injen CAI
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Yah, just buy the Injen CAI.
Yah, just buy the Injen CAI.
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Well, I guess that you all can take it for what you want. But I have PROOF that the ram air gained me consistent 2 mph and .2 sec quicker 1/4 mile times on my mustang. The setup was exactly as he has it except my scoop was a 4 x 10 " going into a flexible dryer duct into my airbox.
I went to the strip w/o it on, made 4 runs, then added it on and made 4 more runs. This was done on more than one occasion.
I went to the strip w/o it on, made 4 runs, then added it on and made 4 more runs. This was done on more than one occasion.
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Why not use the stock air box with a high-flow box(flat) filter. Extend the intake, from the stock opening, to the front grille area, and wrap the aft section of the intake(between the airbox and the throttle body) with an insulated blanket?
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Originally posted by kozik
the front bumper cavity already acts that way. look at the seal on the underside of the hood. the insulating blanket is a good idea.
the front bumper cavity already acts that way. look at the seal on the underside of the hood. the insulating blanket is a good idea.
Yeah...I kinda agree.
But turbulence concerns me. It's a factor you'll fight reguardless, but with the intake extension you reduce the turbulence variable to only whats happening inside the intake.
I'm one of those 'fools' who thinks the only advantage of an aftermarket CAI on this car lies in sound and appearance.
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Now that we're brainstorming...
Here's something that popped to mind. Just an idea, probably not easy but maybe it'll stimulate more ideas.
Should go well with a vented hood like the veilside ver3 but with reverse vents or a scoop.
Should go well with a vented hood like the veilside ver3 but with reverse vents or a scoop.