I was sitting here reading a few threads, and something occured to me.. As zland stated in his other thread, Mossy Nissan’s 350Z is dynoing 282rwhp with the following mods:

JWT Popcharger
Borla Headers
Borla dual cat-back exhaust
UR Pulley Set
JWT aluminum flywheel
Nismo Cams


Now the baseline on most Z's lets say is roughly 240rwhp, with ATI most people are putting abuot 360rwhp. So that's a 120rwhp gain. Add that with the 282rwhp, and you have 402rwhp, without any piston/rod work. Now you can even increase that with other small mods such as new spark plugs, which someone said gave roughly 6rwhp, and Air/Fuel ratio configuration (Apexi S-AFC), or TS ECU Reflash, thats another 6rwhp or so (average).

So! In conclusion, if you don't break 400rwhp, with the spark plugs and S-AFC, you should. If you're lucky to break 400rwhp without sparks/SAFC, then you could even get into the 410rwhp. Now some of you are lucky ****'s who got 245-250 baselines, so you guys should definatly be able to get into the 400's.

400rwhp basically translates to 400 crank hp, with 15% loss. You'll be able to keep up with those big bad V-10 SRT-10 Vipers!

Goodluck to you guys, and hopefully we'll see someone break into the 400rwhp's soon (without nitrious!)

 

thats ricer math man, 10from one thing and 5 from another does not equal 15.

youd get some more, but not 40 on top of the already high HP from the SC. things begin to get diminishing gains as their abilities are put to the limit, exhaust is tuned for stock flow, but with more flow it might be a bit constrictive so it gives less gains.

 

OWNED!!! Haha.

I agree with Ares... the numbers just don't add up in such an elementary way.

 

That's such a sad way to shoot someone down.

 

Haha, it's cool because Ares and I are friends , but the 282 has already been done, and ATI generally gives 120, so you'd expect around 400rwhp.. ignore the SAFC and spark plugs, but suppose you ATI a 282rwhp car already, you should be at 400!

 

JWT Popcharger + ATI Procharger?

I like the way ares put it "ricer math", lol

Horsepower doesn't just simply add.

Victor

 

huh

 

JWT Popcharger - can't be used with the ATI kit

UR Pulley Set - can't be used with the ATI kit

Nismo Cams - depending on overlap can cause you to lose power in an FI application.

Numbers don't add up like that unfortunately. Like Ares said, that's the way Honda guys claim they have 300HP with exhaust, CAI and manifold changes. Take the largest number possible, add it to the biggest number anyone has dynoed with the same type of car and add a couple horsepower for the stickers on the windows.

 

that's bad rice math

 

Apart from the items already mentioned, certain mods give their peak hp/tq gains at a specific RPM, not all at the same RPM. So to add a peak from "mod A" and a peak from "mod B" just doesn't add up.

Reminds me of this dude at my work that bought a Toyota Tacoma and got the TRD Supercharger (+55%HP), Pep Boys muffler(+40HP) and spark plugs(+10HP), CAI(+20HP) and put in octane boost (+20HP) once he added it all up he thought he was close to 450HP or something. I just smiled and nodded. BTW those are HP numbers that he claimed (not dyno'd), not my estimates

 

 

LOL.. now that you mention all this, I feel stupid. I knew all that too! Wow, these medications must be getting to my head..


Disregard this post! I'm an idiot right now.. forgive me for my stupidness for now, and possibly for a week or so untill these med's wear off

 

On another note, Mr. B, what kind of kit is that? Looks awesome.. Got more pics?

And maybe it's the drugs, but is that intercooler piping I see?

 

The issue isnt having to buy low compression pistons and forged conrods to increase power (well, at least not right now--when people have a method of providing higher boost pressures lower compression pistons will let you raise boost even higher to produce more power) . The reason you buy those components is to keep the engine from breaking rods and banging around valves and goreing the block. The top secret Z ran 540hp on stock internals, but blew a motor reportedly every week.

 

How about a procharger and smaller pulley w/ bigger injectors? I would guess an easy 400rwhp is possible, especially with a 6MT. I put down 368RWHP and I have a 5AT with exhaust.

 

i believe a supercharger plus some bolt ons can very well easily get you to 400+whp.

I mean the supercharger alone is getting autos to 370... a high flow exhaust, some cams, maybe even an ecu upgrade and i see it easily going to 400+

i got my flame suit on ..ready for the attacks

 

Werd!

You need to know the specs of the cams you are putting in like he said or you could loose hp. You need reverse split camshafts I believe.

 

Procharger + CO2 Intercooler sprayer - CO2 + N2O + Crawford Plenum = 420 HP to the wheels on paulo car

if you dont understandthe above, the CO2 sprayer was filled with N20 instead of CO2 (they were out). When firing the intercooler with the N2O, it was like a dry shot to the the air filter. weeeeee!

 

what you got against nitrous nothing wrong with it... nitrous is just as viable an option as any other form of FI... dont dog it or it will OWN you!!!! hahaha it is not cheating...

-non

 

VandyZ:

was this result with the default 7psi pulley or smaller (ie 9psi)?

That accidental "dry shot " sounds a little scary, witou the commensurate fuel squirt sounds like lean time-bomb waiting to blow a piston, ring or head gasket.