E55 AMG: What needs to be done to take one out?
09-24-2003, 09:25 PM
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Re: E55 AMG: What needs to be done to take one out?
Originally posted by time4aspliff
Here's the million dollar question: can a turbocharged Z33 keep up with the E55? (1/4 mile in 12.39 seconds)
Here's the million dollar question: can a turbocharged Z33 keep up with the E55? (1/4 mile in 12.39 seconds)
But you have to understand, he has room for 5, much better interior, panoramic roof which cools your car when you park in the sun, and its automatic!
Unless you can shift perfect, and he forgets where the gas peddle is, you are looking to be humbled real QUICK!
They do mid 12s all day on 91 octane gas and street tires.
If a FI 350z and e55 lined up and both had drags, i still have my money on the e55.
If you guys do a highway race you are screwed! the e55 has the same identical engine/part number as the sl55. the sl55 was the 2nd fastest car to 200mph (gov removed). 1st being the lambo murci.
Have fun.
09-24-2003, 09:28 PM
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Originally posted by wuhou
uh....let me just say that the e55amg (a.k.a. the fastest mercededes production car to date) is ridiculously fast.
i've driven both cars. my dad has one, and i have a peformance model z. honestly, i think it would be a waste of money to try and catch up with that car. look in the back of a car and driver magazine and you'll see the e55 is a car that's has better track times than a ferrari modena.
uh....let me just say that the e55amg (a.k.a. the fastest mercededes production car to date) is ridiculously fast.
i've driven both cars. my dad has one, and i have a peformance model z. honestly, i think it would be a waste of money to try and catch up with that car. look in the back of a car and driver magazine and you'll see the e55 is a car that's has better track times than a ferrari modena.
)... I have my Z N/A... with just 50 hp of NOS I would just win easily... his uncle have a brand new E55 maybe I will call him to see whats up!!!street racing is very differrent that the track... everybody know's that!!!
P.S. Theres a few Z's in the low 12 and 1 in 11.9 w just Nos so is not a big deal!!!
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09-24-2003, 09:43 PM
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If you ask me, you have two choices:
Choice #1
The easiest and cheapest way...NOS... what would you need? Here it goes:
1- Headers, cat pipes, and a true dual exhaust I recommend Injen SES (that's what I have
)
2- Crank Pulley and a lighter flywheel (Jun or JWT will do)
3- Gronding kit (you need to be shure that engine is running smooth)
4- Injen CAI (also it's what I have and recommend )
5- A good set of tires, Drag Radials or something similar (for wheelspin)
6- and of course, the NOS setup. Go for the big selenoids with a minimum of 175hp, if you want to make sure go for the 200hp mark. Get a window switch, what it does is that it prevents you to go past a given RPM with the nitrous.
There is a member running 300hp and haven't had any problems (to my knowledge)
I pretty sure that you won't go more than 6k... if you do a little reaserch you could by the parts at good prices. And can do some of the instalations yourself.
Choice #2
1- Headers, cat pipes, and a true dual exhaust.
2- Crank Pulley and a lighter flywheel (Jun or JWT will do)
3- Gronding kit (you need to be shure that engine is running smooth)
4- A good set of tires, Drag Radials or something similar (for wheelspin)
5- Pro charger.
With this setup, you should be good for 400rwhp, but you will have to get about 8k
If I where you, and time and money is a BIG factor, I would go with choice #1. Can't go wrong with NOS.
Choice #1
The easiest and cheapest way...NOS... what would you need? Here it goes:
1- Headers, cat pipes, and a true dual exhaust I recommend Injen SES (that's what I have
)2- Crank Pulley and a lighter flywheel (Jun or JWT will do)
3- Gronding kit (you need to be shure that engine is running smooth)
4- Injen CAI (also it's what I have and recommend
)5- A good set of tires, Drag Radials or something similar (for wheelspin)
6- and of course, the NOS setup. Go for the big selenoids with a minimum of 175hp, if you want to make sure go for the 200hp mark. Get a window switch, what it does is that it prevents you to go past a given RPM with the nitrous.
There is a member running 300hp and haven't had any problems (to my knowledge)
I pretty sure that you won't go more than 6k... if you do a little reaserch you could by the parts at good prices. And can do some of the instalations yourself.
Choice #2
1- Headers, cat pipes, and a true dual exhaust.
2- Crank Pulley and a lighter flywheel (Jun or JWT will do)
3- Gronding kit (you need to be shure that engine is running smooth)
4- A good set of tires, Drag Radials or something similar (for wheelspin)
5- Pro charger.
With this setup, you should be good for 400rwhp, but you will have to get about 8k
If I where you, and time and money is a BIG factor, I would go with choice #1. Can't go wrong with NOS.
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09-24-2003, 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by webcarconnection
I race with my friend 360 Modena and I was only 2 cars behind (I have witness)... I'm have my Z N/A... with just 50 hp of NOS I would just win easily... his uncle have a brand new E55 maybe I will call him to see whats up!!!
street racing is very differrent that the track... everybody know's that!!!
I race with my friend 360 Modena and I was only 2 cars behind (I have witness
)... I'm have my Z N/A... with just 50 hp of NOS I would just win easily... his uncle have a brand new E55 maybe I will call him to see whats up!!!street racing is very differrent that the track... everybody know's that!!!
Dont do it man! i am warning you now. 50 shot of nos does almost nothing for the VQ unless it is direct port.
That modena driver was not pushing hard or cant drive. the modena takes considerably less time to hit 160mph than a z.
The trap speed i saw on a new E55 was 116mph! you'll be at like 105? its not a contest. Look at the smithtown 350Z. the fastest yet with like 300shot of nos. their trap speeds are close to the stock e55!
It has 516 lbs of torque!
"You cant win! Its suicide!"
- Adrian from Rocky IV
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09-24-2003, 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Javi
Choice #1
I pretty sure that you won't go more than 6k... if you do a little reaserch you could by the parts at good prices. And can do some of the instalations yourself.
Choice #2
With this setup, you should be good for 400rwhp, but you will have to get about 8k
If I where you, and time and money is a BIG factor, I would go with choice #1. Can't go wrong with NOS.
Choice #1
I pretty sure that you won't go more than 6k... if you do a little reaserch you could by the parts at good prices. And can do some of the instalations yourself.
Choice #2
With this setup, you should be good for 400rwhp, but you will have to get about 8k
If I where you, and time and money is a BIG factor, I would go with choice #1. Can't go wrong with NOS.
+ avg cost to mod a z and stretch it to its limits = $7,000 (more like $12,000)
Total = $37,000 (more like $42,000)
36 month lease for E55 = $39,600
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09-24-2003, 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by rouxeny
I know a very easy way to beat it for CHEAP.
Get a small knife, and stick it in each of his tires. If you really want to be cheap, just stick his rear tires.
I know a very easy way to beat it for CHEAP.
Get a small knife, and stick it in each of his tires. If you really want to be cheap, just stick his rear tires.
09-24-2003, 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by 350ZMatt
1st comment is that comparing a 350Z to an e55 or a modena is silly. its like SRT guys comparing to e55 or modena.
Dont do it man! i am warning you now. 50 shot of nos does almost nothing for the VQ unless it is direct port.
That modena driver was not pushing hard or cant drive. the modena takes considerably less time to hit 160mph than a z.
The trap speed i saw on a new E55 was 116mph! you'll be at like 105? its not a contest. Look at the smithtown 350Z. the fastest yet with like 300shot of nos. their trap speeds are close to the stock e55!
1st comment is that comparing a 350Z to an e55 or a modena is silly. its like SRT guys comparing to e55 or modena.
Dont do it man! i am warning you now. 50 shot of nos does almost nothing for the VQ unless it is direct port.
That modena driver was not pushing hard or cant drive. the modena takes considerably less time to hit 160mph than a z.
The trap speed i saw on a new E55 was 116mph! you'll be at like 105? its not a contest. Look at the smithtown 350Z. the fastest yet with like 300shot of nos. their trap speeds are close to the stock e55!
PS the Z that put 11.9 in the track trap speed 114 or something w 150 shot so the Z that have 300 shot is way lost!!!
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09-24-2003, 10:32 PM
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Originally posted by webcarconnection
Hey man thank for your comment but dont tell me the Modena Driver was not pushing hard or cant drive... I said in my last post that his my friend and he knows how to drive, so dont comment in something you dont know... I bet that w 150 of NOS in my car I can beat easily the E55... I said before I said again the Street is not the Track... I know what I'm talking about!!!
PS the Z that put 11.9 in the track trap speed 114 or something w 150 shot so the Z that have 300 shot is way lost!!!
Hey man thank for your comment but dont tell me the Modena Driver was not pushing hard or cant drive... I said in my last post that his my friend and he knows how to drive, so dont comment in something you dont know... I bet that w 150 of NOS in my car I can beat easily the E55... I said before I said again the Street is not the Track... I know what I'm talking about!!!
PS the Z that put 11.9 in the track trap speed 114 or something w 150 shot so the Z that have 300 shot is way lost!!!
Its def possible. But that 300 shot 350Z you are talking about, it did 11.7 @ 116 Mph 8/27/03. Smithtown nissan owns it.
Here is the thread where they confirm that the car has 225 shot stage one (Direct), and a 75 shot stage two (intake). with this setup + injen SES, gutted interior, great driver and drags, they ran 11.7.
The E55 with drags can run consistent 12 flat or quicker. If the E55 had drags, it would mean that that 516lb of tq will be hitting the concrete much faster with less spin. its a daunting task and i wish you luck. drive safe.
09-24-2003, 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by 350ZMatt
I retract all my statements if they sounded negative. I wish you luck. I was just trying to give you the objective point of view.
Its def possible. But that 300 shot 350Z you are talking about, it did 11.7 @ 116 Mph 8/27/03. Smithtown nissan owns it.
Here is the thread where they confirm that the car has 225 shot stage one (Direct), and a 75 shot stage two (intake). with this setup + injen SES, gutted interior, great driver and drags, they ran 11.7.
The E55 with drags can run consistent 12 flat or quicker. If the E55 had drags, it would mean that that 516lb of tq will be hitting the concrete much faster with less spin. its a daunting task and i wish you luck. drive safe.
I retract all my statements if they sounded negative. I wish you luck. I was just trying to give you the objective point of view.
Its def possible. But that 300 shot 350Z you are talking about, it did 11.7 @ 116 Mph 8/27/03. Smithtown nissan owns it.
Here is the thread where they confirm that the car has 225 shot stage one (Direct), and a 75 shot stage two (intake). with this setup + injen SES, gutted interior, great driver and drags, they ran 11.7.
The E55 with drags can run consistent 12 flat or quicker. If the E55 had drags, it would mean that that 516lb of tq will be hitting the concrete much faster with less spin. its a daunting task and i wish you luck. drive safe.
IN MY OPINION, there is something wrong with that car. Let me explain...
They are running several mods (without counting the nitrous) that very EASILY would do 101 mph trap speeds with any Z.
They are running 300hp ADDITIONAL to that engine and they are doing 116mph, they improved 15mph in the trap speeds.
I had a 95 LT1 Formula that ran 103mph all motor with 297rwhp (It weight 3600lbs) and with 225hp of NOS it went to 473rwhp and trap speeds of 119mph without slick or drag tires. It improved 173rwhp and 16mph in the traps witch is like 10rwhp per 1mph in the traps.
Like I said before IMO I think that the Smithtown Z should at LEAST do 120mph in the traps, because we are talking about INJECTING more hp than the Z has STOCK!!!!!
Again that is MY OPINION, anyway I'm open to comments...
09-25-2003, 03:11 AM
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Thanks for all the feedback (especially, the humor...) everybody.
I'm not doubting anyone's comments (a lot of things are possible in this world) but this is looking more and more like a David versus Goliath scenario. I'm still planning on modding my car with some type of forced induction but reliability is more important to me than shocking the crap out of my bro-in-law. The dude makes good coin but I have no idea how he's gonna pull it off (they're marking the E55 up like its the last car on earth). The MSRP is about $76,000 but people are selling low mileage used ones for around 10 grand more!!
Anyway, keep the comments coming... The E55, as you all know, is one hell of a SICK car. To the untrained eye, it appears to be a plain looking grocery getter that's capable of 15-15.5 second 1/4 mile times but surprise... In a funny way, it sort of frustrates me that a car like that exists. Road & Track claims that it's a bit quicker than a Z06 and it also handles and brakes like a supercar. It certainly would be cool to hang with one...
I'm not doubting anyone's comments (a lot of things are possible in this world) but this is looking more and more like a David versus Goliath scenario. I'm still planning on modding my car with some type of forced induction but reliability is more important to me than shocking the crap out of my bro-in-law. The dude makes good coin but I have no idea how he's gonna pull it off (they're marking the E55 up like its the last car on earth). The MSRP is about $76,000 but people are selling low mileage used ones for around 10 grand more!!
Anyway, keep the comments coming... The E55, as you all know, is one hell of a SICK car. To the untrained eye, it appears to be a plain looking grocery getter that's capable of 15-15.5 second 1/4 mile times but surprise... In a funny way, it sort of frustrates me that a car like that exists. Road & Track claims that it's a bit quicker than a Z06 and it also handles and brakes like a supercar. It certainly would be cool to hang with one...
09-25-2003, 03:18 AM
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E55 pfffffft
I just got back from a drive in my friends Skyline GTR R33.
Let me tell you, while the adrenaline is still present, that this car is a MONSTER !!!
Best 1/4 mile time was 11.08 and consistently running low 11 passes.
Its such a scary car in traffic. I would say too fast for the road.
The G forces produced are just nuts
I have driven many fast cars and can confidently say that with the level of grip this car has, it would be more fun to drive than the E55.
Back to the topic, yes I agree you would have to do some major mods to the Z in order to compete with the Merc.
Not worth the cash really .
Maybe he is a bad driver and you can beat him anyway
I just got back from a drive in my friends Skyline GTR R33.
Let me tell you, while the adrenaline is still present, that this car is a MONSTER !!!
Best 1/4 mile time was 11.08 and consistently running low 11 passes.
Its such a scary car in traffic. I would say too fast for the road.
The G forces produced are just nuts
I have driven many fast cars and can confidently say that with the level of grip this car has, it would be more fun to drive than the E55.
Back to the topic, yes I agree you would have to do some major mods to the Z in order to compete with the Merc.
Not worth the cash really .
Maybe he is a bad driver and you can beat him anyway
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09-25-2003, 04:36 AM
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let him win...who cares the e55 is a tug.
save your money, buy a house, invest etc...they're only CARS man.
I'm a doc as as well, there isnt crazy coin in medicine anymore, we do okay, but not 80s great. Let him get his manhood machine, while you delight in the fact that you're not THROWING $1k away each month.
That said, when my lease is up on my Z....I'm buying a used SL500. My theory re: modding cars? Get a new one!
save your money, buy a house, invest etc...they're only CARS man.
I'm a doc as as well, there isnt crazy coin in medicine anymore, we do okay, but not 80s great. Let him get his manhood machine, while you delight in the fact that you're not THROWING $1k away each month.
That said, when my lease is up on my Z....I'm buying a used SL500. My theory re: modding cars? Get a new one!
09-25-2003, 06:47 AM
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Save your coins, you can rent one for $495 a day. Take it to the drags!
http://playerscarrental.com/mercedes...mg_rentals.htm
http://playerscarrental.com/mercedes...mg_rentals.htm
09-25-2003, 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by 350ZMatt
I retract all my statements if they sounded negative. I wish you luck. I was just trying to give you the objective point of view.
I retract all my statements if they sounded negative. I wish you luck. I was just trying to give you the objective point of view.
Take care!
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I think a M6 350Z with all the bolt ons and 150shot should hang or beat the E55. Try it u wont lose anything, u will end up having a faster car than before anyways. Hell I'm worried now about racing one of those monsters especially after seeing a "stock" one schooling a 460rwhp 03 Cobra.
I know a guy who owns an E55 with few bolt ons he smokes a 996 TT from a roll (20mph-150mph) and he is still pulling away. So even if u did beat him when he is stock... that will just let him get a smaller pulley, chip, exhaust and its game over again LOL.
I know a guy who owns an E55 with few bolt ons he smokes a 996 TT from a roll (20mph-150mph) and he is still pulling away. So even if u did beat him when he is stock... that will just let him get a smaller pulley, chip, exhaust and its game over again LOL.
