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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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Question want to upgrade my cams what do yall recommend?

i want to upgrade my cams but dont know where to start. from brand type,performance,size. will i have to change out anything else or is it a quick drop in job? any advise will help me narrow it down n choose the right cams for my car?
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 12:58 PM
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year of car?
current mods?
budget?
goals?

it's not a cheap process no matter which route you go - it can be rewarding depending upon your answers to the above
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:21 PM
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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06 350z, cold air intake, auto, i got $1500, my goal is bring out as much horse power from my car before adding a pro charger or turbo
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Originally Posted by R@lph'$ 350z
06 350z, cold air intake, auto, i got $1500, my goal is bring out as much horse power from my car before adding a pro charger or turbo
you should look elsewhere besides cams then
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Old Aug 11, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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You need breather mods before you will get maximum gains from cams........like stated above you are looking in the wrong direction.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Nexx
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Originally Posted by R@lph'$ 350z
i want to upgrade my cams but dont know where to start. from brand type,performance,size. will i have to change out anything else or is it a quick drop in job? any advise will help me narrow it down n choose the right cams for my car?
Is it a quick drop in are you kidding me?? It's a good looooong days project if you know what you're doing and have the Nissan 350z Complete service manual. If you take it in to have the stealership install it you could expect to spend the same price that you paid for the cams or more... The Z is not user friendly when it comes the the motor and taking it apart, this isnt your 4cyl honda, just to give you a quick idea what you need to do, pop the hood of your Z and look at the front of the motor, that whole plate where all your pullies are needs to come off... i'm not even going to go into detail as to what else needs to come off, this is not for the newb mechanic.

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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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you usually dont hear about people upgrading cams unless they are in the midst of a big N/A build...
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just save your $1500

do some real backround investigation on the setup and goals you want to achieve.

if your doing a complete N/A build you'll be spending around 6k to 8k... (depends on aggressiveness)



forced induction, will run you from 5k all the way to 12k if not more... depending on different goals you wanna reach.

both routes aren't cheap.
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Get some headers and straight pipes.
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You want NA cams but you plan to go FI in the future?
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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Your best bet is to skip cams until you're ready to go into an in-depth build. I have my motor out of the car at the moment (since it blew up :/), so I am just now considering cams. The only drop in set I would recommend is the Brian Crower 264s. Inexpensive, no valvetrain mods necessary, and decent power gains.

But you have to remember, once you crack open the block you'll want some kind of engine management solution to get the most out of your parts, and you'll want your breather mods completed.

I recommend a wet nitrous kit in a low jetting (75HP), but I don't know too much about automatics and how they handle additional power. Also I'm assuming there is some electronic tomfoolery you will need to get the nitrous to cut off in between shifts. Contact someone at NX and see what you can do. It will definitely make the most power for your buck.

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Originally Posted by AgentReaver
Your best bet is to skip cams until you're ready to go into an in-depth build. I have my motor out of the car at the moment (since it blew up :/), so I am just now considering cams. The only drop in set I would recommend is the Brian Crower 264s. Inexpensive, no valvetrain mods necessary, and decent power gains.

But you have to remember, once you crack open the block you'll want some kind of engine management solution to get the most out of your parts, and you'll want your breather mods completed.

I recommend a wet nitrous kit in a low jetting (75HP), but I don't know too much about automatics and how they handle additional power. Also I'm assuming there is some electronic tomfoolery you will need to get the nitrous to cut off in between shifts. Contact someone at NX and see what you can do. It will definitely make the most power for your buck.

Best Regards,

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no valvetrain mods is the case with many cams if you intend to stay at or very close to, the stock rev limiter. Any meaningful rise in rpm, which is a natural progression with aftermarket cams for this engine, must be accompanied by the appropriate valvetrain mods (springs at a minumum).
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:26 AM
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True, but he could drop them in and retain stock rev limit until he gathered the funds to do it correctly. That said, probably better just to wait and do it right the first time through. I'm only considering it since I have a motor out anyway and it would save me on labor.
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replacing the cams, and then having to take them back out to replace the springs, is the polar opposite from doing it correctly

the OP sounds like he's a long way away from needing, or even considering cams. Not to mention, the right cam for NA and the right cam for FI, as mentioned above, can often differ

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Originally Posted by Z1 Performance
replacing the cams, and then having to take them back out to replace the springs, is the polar opposite from doing it correctly

the OP sounds like he's a long way away from needing, or even considering cams. Not to mention, the right cam for NA and the right cam for FI, as mentioned above, can often differ
I think Adam is right on this one... the OP said he has plans on changing inductions which is contradictory to upgrading cams at this time. It would be nearly a waste of money if he upgrades now. I would say save half your money get a plenuem spacer and some great plugs, and maybe a tune depending on what level of mod your car is at.
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Old Aug 14, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Get yourself some gears and the Transgo kit and you will be a lot happier as well.
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Not a bad ideal.
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