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malx (Zoolander)
03/05/04 06:39 AM

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There it is by popular demand^^ The well awaited DreamWorkes SuperCharger kit!

I met with Goran from DreamWorkes yesterday and here is what he had to say. Most of your answers will be answered here. Please excuse spelling. I was taking notes as he was talking so my info can be a little weird and my terms can be wrong as well. If it is PLEASE don’t complain!

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Avino (malx) of G35driver.com: Goran, I understand there is much hype and concern for this kit, give me a brief description of it and its options.

Goran of DreamWorkes: Well Joey, for one, the stage one kit is almost finished for the g35 and will be released the end of March we hope. As of now, the first 150 kits are already sold and we will be releasing 50 of them 2 months from then.

Joey: Goran, I understand you guys have three different kits, please explain them.

Goran: Well… Stage one is coming out soon. Stage one will is good for anywhere in between 400-410 horsepower on a stock coupe running our preset 6PSI. It comes with a piggyback ECU, fuel injectors, upgraded fuel rails, and other valves and such. The stage one retails for about 6,200 dollars and stage two will be retailing about 500-700 dollars more. Stage two is basically the same thing as stage one except there is a different piggy back ECU. This will up the boost to about 9PSI. adding about 60-70 horsepower. Again no internal modifications are needed at all and upgrading from stage one to stage two can be done no problem. Stage three you need engine modifications. This is good for about 600 horsepower and it runs about 14PSI. The pistons need to be upgraded (lowering the compression to 8.5:1) as well as the rods and other things in the engine. All kits include dual water-cooled intercoolers. Water cooling is more efficient because water has an extremely high heat capacity which means that it takes longer for it to heat up than air hence making better cooling than air.

Joey: Thanks, for those of us who don’t know, what does the piggyback ECU actually do?

Goran: Well I’m glad you asked, it’s very interesting. Just to brief, Nissan would rather us not replace or flash their ECU because of warranty issues which I’m sure you will ask about later. The piggyback ECU goes on your stock ECU with everything preprogrammed. The stage 1, 2, and 3, have different piggybacks which make the difference in the PSI and you can upgrade between kits for a fee.

Joey: What about the warranty?

Goran: Well we work with an outside company that honors your powertrain warranty. Basically it works like this. If something breaks and the kit was installed by one of our authorized dealership the damage is paid for. There is a 200 dollar deductible and you are insured up to 10,000 dollars. If something breaks basically, you’re covered but you have to pay the first two hundred dollars. The warranty can or cannot be purchased when you purchase the kit. It is an extra 800 dollars but it is defiantly recommended if you don’t plan on making your own modifications. It is also a one time fee. You are insured up to 48,000 miles. This replaces your stock waranty. If you have miles on your car there is a math equation we use to figure out and let you know at what mileage your waranty will expire. For example, if you have 10,000 miles on your car you may be insured up to 55,000 miles depending. It does not expire when your car reaches 48,000 miles because if people had 35,000 miles before they got the supercharger it would be unfair to them for their warantay to expire at 48,000 miles.

Joey: Describe what is included when you say powertrain?

Goran: Well there is a lot of controversy about this Joey. As powertrain we mean anything that creates power. That includes the engine and transmission in the warranty. People say otherwise but do not listen to them, you engine IS INCLUDED!

Joey: Please elaborate on authorized dealerships. What do you mean?

Goran: As we know the new Nissan vehicles are the hardest to tune and modify. Who knows our cars better then Nissan? No one! They made our cars! We are working more on this but currently we have confirmed dealerships (one being right here in New York) that will install your supercharger for their rate. If installed by them, your warranty valid if you don’t up the boost or change anything about the kit?

Joey: On these kits you can up the boost?

Goran: Well you would always be able to change the pulleys and anyone with experience can manipulate the kit. The problem is that everything, even the tuning, will be thrown off. The main way to up the boost is to buy a kit upgrade, IE, if you have stage one, buy the stage two upgrade. If you throw a new pulley or something else you could break something, also, you car would not be in its warranty anymore.

Joey: So your piggyback ECU will upgrade the PSI safely?

Goran: Yes Joey.

Joey: Back on the ECU, what about tuning and its relation to your ECU?

Goran: Well, because we are able to piggyback the stock ECU safely, once the kit is installed no necessary tuning is needed at all. That is the one problem with forced induction on these cars today is tuning. As you know companies have rushed their product and some fuel ratios are inconsistent throughout the RPM bad. Our piggyback ECU, Fuel rails and injectors fix this problem with no tuning needed.

Joey: So once the kit is installed by Nissan we can drive it out of the service department with no tuning at all?

Goran: Yes. This is good because you won’t have to worry about some tuner messing up your car. The Piggyback ECU is pre-tuned perfectly I assure you.

Joey: Now what about Gas mileage? Superchargers, running off of the existing pulleys use a lot more fuel. What are the numbers with your kit?

Goran: Well we have a power bypass system included in the kit. Here is how it works. When your car is at idle speed or under 1800RPM, the bypass kits in. The only power needed by the supercharger is to turn the supercharger turbine but does not generate power. Once 1800RPM kicks in, the power is used. When you’re highway driving and not flooring the car, it also kicks in to save gas. When you need the power, the supercharger utilizes all of it and will use some extra fuel. In total, with normal driving you will lose maybe 1-2 MPG if that, sometimes none at all.

Joey: What about the ease of home install?

Goran: Home installing the kit will void the warranty.

Joey: Can you just briefly explain the different between this kit and the others?

Goran: Well Joey, I’m glad you asked. The kit uses a root type system. We studied the Jaguar XJR to build this kit. The kit replaces the top piece of the engine and no hood or body modification is needed. The top piece of the engine needs to be removed and replaced with our kit. Other then that, it is purely connecting the parts. It is very difficult to remove the top piece of the engine, you need to know what you are doing and we do not recommend attempting the install at home unless you are very experienced with these vehicles.

Joey: Anything else you think we at G35driver should know?

Goran: Yes, payment methods. DreamWorkes is currently working with a credit card company (hopefully be done by May) where you can get a credit card such as a Visa and MasterCard and you can finance our kit through this company. With good credit, you can have a payment plan with interest as little as 8 percent for, not just our superchargers, but any number of our products. If you do not have the money to burn right away.

Joey: Well thanks Goran, I’m sure that everyone will love to hear all of the information.

Goran: Thank you Joey for your concern, I will keep in touch with you and hope to see you at our event.

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And there you have it. I was invited to watch their race teams opening race the end of March to view their 600HP 350Z with their stage 3 supercharger and it and watch it race. I will report from there. If any further info is discovered I will inform you all immediately. I already ordered my kit guys for June!

If someone has a question for DreamWorkes. PM me the question and I will call Goran on his cell phone and post his answer! x2!

teh215

iTrader: (8)

There was a short article about this kit in the new Sport Z magazine. I will believe this kit exists when I see, at least, pics of it taken on a vehicle not affiliated with Dream Workes. Real or not, $6200 still seems like way too much for a SC kit considering what else is already on the market.

orhanz33

$6200 + $800 (warranty) + ?$install$? = way too much... that warranty is tempting, but if it's anything like Nissan service (most likely is) i'm better off without it... i need to find out more about this, what's the dealer in NY ?

rouxeny

How exactly are they going to get it to 600 hp? Even with changing the internals, I would think that is pretty high, and on the edge of going poof!

I'll believe when I see it.

westpak

iTrader: (19)

I believe it when I see it, Greddy took a while but at least they had one on their car for a while at Car shows.

zzzya

iTrader: (2)

What about adding the supercharger to a car with an already modified exhaust such as headers, HF cats and cat back? Any tuning issues with a preset Piggyback? Does the car have to be returned to stock for the warranty?

westpak

iTrader: (19)

Good question because you will be at a slightly higher boost with an open exhaust, Shold probably read the fine print on the warranty

phile

interesting.

SKiDaZZLe

Here is my breakdown (based on crank HP, as 400whp is not attainable at 6psi)

0psi = 287hp
6psi = 410hp (gaining 20.5 hp/psi)
9psi = 480hp (gaining 23.3 hp/psi)
14psi = 600hp (gaining 24.5 hp/psi)

Now getting around 20hp/psi is normal for our cars. The problem is the 14psi setting uses 8.5:1 compression... There is no way you will get 24.5hp/psi by turning up the boost 5psi, while lowering the compression.

For comparison, here is a breakdown of my HP numbers...
0psi = 240whp
7psi = 393whp (gaining 21.8 whp/psi)
8.5psi = 426whp (gaining 22 whp/psi)



I like how many times he says "and other things," and "and other valves." And the fact you have to get it installed at a dealership, and there is absolutely no tuning involved... RIGHT!

They didn't even mention the need for a new clutch...

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phile

Haven't you ever heard of MAGIC? It's obviously magic. DUH!!! jk

FairladyZ

It is bs.

Jax350z

Not to say that I disagree with the fishiness of this whole thing, but he does not say RWHP in the message.

Skidazzle you have 426rwhp at 8.5psi which equates to almost right at 500hp at the crank, so 8.5compression engine with 14psi and 600crank horses sounds about right.