My review of the Tilton Flywheel/Clutch
#1
My review of the Tilton Flywheel/Clutch
While I was at Performance Nissan yesterday to pick up some things I was talking to Jeff about future mods. I mentioned the Tilton and he asked if I had even driven a car with one. When I told him I hadn't he asked if I'd like to try driving his car since he has one (along with TOO many other fun things). First he took me down the street to show me what his car could do.
OH MY GOD!!!!!
I can honestly say that I have never ridden in anything that went that fast so quickly. Well... maybe a plane when it's taking off, but that's about it. WOW!! The fact that it's all NA makes it even more impressive! I can only imagine what a TT or SC Z must be like!
Ok... now for the review:
We got to a nice safe parking lot and I got behind the wheel. The first thing I noticed was how soft the clutch is. It is noticibly softer than the stock pedal. I can only describe it as "squishy". Trying to get the car moving was like learning to drive a manual transmission all over again. It would definitely take some getting used to. You can't just slowly release the clutch as you give it gas like you normally would. You have to sort of gun the gas and then quickly release the clutch. You'd need to practice a lot but I'm sure that once you got the hang of it, it would be AwEsOmE!
This is not something that I would recommend on a daily driver unless you want to spend the better part of a weekend learning how to get the car moving and if you have a wife/girlfriend who would also be driving the car, I don't think they'd like it too much. Crawling forward slowly in the car is something that will require A LOT of practice. I could also imagine the trouble you'd be in if you weren't used to it and got stopped at a red light on a steep uphill grade.
Once the car was moving, shifting through the rest of the gears is pretty much like normal, it's just the innitial launch that would take some getting used to.
So, will I be installing a Tilton Flywheel/Clutch on my Z? .... Probably. I think that the accelleration gains you get from it would greatly outweigh the initial time to get used to it.
"THANK YOU, JEFF!!"
For those of you who are ready to take the plunge into the "Fun Zone", here you go!
-Chris
OH MY GOD!!!!!
I can honestly say that I have never ridden in anything that went that fast so quickly. Well... maybe a plane when it's taking off, but that's about it. WOW!! The fact that it's all NA makes it even more impressive! I can only imagine what a TT or SC Z must be like!
Ok... now for the review:
We got to a nice safe parking lot and I got behind the wheel. The first thing I noticed was how soft the clutch is. It is noticibly softer than the stock pedal. I can only describe it as "squishy". Trying to get the car moving was like learning to drive a manual transmission all over again. It would definitely take some getting used to. You can't just slowly release the clutch as you give it gas like you normally would. You have to sort of gun the gas and then quickly release the clutch. You'd need to practice a lot but I'm sure that once you got the hang of it, it would be AwEsOmE!
This is not something that I would recommend on a daily driver unless you want to spend the better part of a weekend learning how to get the car moving and if you have a wife/girlfriend who would also be driving the car, I don't think they'd like it too much. Crawling forward slowly in the car is something that will require A LOT of practice. I could also imagine the trouble you'd be in if you weren't used to it and got stopped at a red light on a steep uphill grade.
Once the car was moving, shifting through the rest of the gears is pretty much like normal, it's just the innitial launch that would take some getting used to.
So, will I be installing a Tilton Flywheel/Clutch on my Z? .... Probably. I think that the accelleration gains you get from it would greatly outweigh the initial time to get used to it.
"THANK YOU, JEFF!!"
For those of you who are ready to take the plunge into the "Fun Zone", here you go!
-Chris
Last edited by ChrisMCagle; 05-11-2004 at 07:13 AM.
#3
Originally posted by FritzMan
Looking at your sig, I noticed you have the Kinetix plenum.
Is the gear noise from the Tilton as noticable as the plenum growl (inside and outside)?
Looking at your sig, I noticed you have the Kinetix plenum.
Is the gear noise from the Tilton as noticable as the plenum growl (inside and outside)?
-Chris
#5
Hey, always like showing of the toy.... but I think it's time for something new... want a Skyline R34, so the Z is up for sale.. BTW: Tilton is still working on a full street version of the disc, but for those with F/I... what's in my car is the set up to have. Good seeing you again Chris!!!
#7
Originally posted by Traffic
Hmm, a Z with a Tilton setup and the 3.917 final drive gears would be pretty quick indeed.
Hmm, a Z with a Tilton setup and the 3.917 final drive gears would be pretty quick indeed.
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#8
Originally posted by Jeff@Performance
Hey, always like showing of the toy.... but I think it's time for something new... want a Skyline R34, so the Z is up for sale..
Hey, always like showing of the toy.... but I think it's time for something new... want a Skyline R34, so the Z is up for sale..
#9
Originally posted by Z8M
I'll be curious, what your car sells for with all those nasty mods. I do mean NAZZZZZTY!!!
I'll be curious, what your car sells for with all those nasty mods. I do mean NAZZZZZTY!!!
#11
im wanting more tilton info......
[[a streetable setup, with MIN noise/cement mixer sound] and some range of engagement in the pedal travel.....
this is for my vortech,which goes in next week....
pls. PM me with details, if possible!
-eS
[[a streetable setup, with MIN noise/cement mixer sound] and some range of engagement in the pedal travel.....
this is for my vortech,which goes in next week....
pls. PM me with details, if possible!
-eS
#12
I dont understand how they could come out with a more streetable clutch. I always thought that lighter flywheels and clutches are harder to launch because there is not enough rotational weight to get the car going. Unless the new clutch is a lot heavier (which would make acceleration slower), I dont know how it would solve the streetability problem.
#13
Thanx Chris for the info. Ever since I read thru the Jason "WOWIE" post, the Tilton set-up has sounded pretty interesting...except for the reported noise thing (the gravelly cement mixer, whatever it is). Chris didn't mention it as an issue. I may have talked myself out of the probably tooloud RS*R exhaust, but, I think this Tilton flywheel/clutch is moving up the 'to do' list again.
could someone splain to me what the source of the noise is on a light flywheel/clutch? Apparently a stock clutch dampens the noise, but what is the noise? I checked out the 'how stuff works' web & there's not much on flywheels.
could someone splain to me what the source of the noise is on a light flywheel/clutch? Apparently a stock clutch dampens the noise, but what is the noise? I checked out the 'how stuff works' web & there's not much on flywheels.
#15
Originally posted by Jeff@Performance
BTW: Tilton is still working on a full street version of the disc, but for those with F/I... what's in my car is the set up to have.
BTW: Tilton is still working on a full street version of the disc, but for those with F/I... what's in my car is the set up to have.
#16
Originally posted by WP Gaston
could someone splain to me what the source of the noise is on a light flywheel/clutch? Apparently a stock clutch dampens the noise, but what is the noise? I checked out the 'how stuff works' web & there's not much on flywheels.
could someone splain to me what the source of the noise is on a light flywheel/clutch? Apparently a stock clutch dampens the noise, but what is the noise? I checked out the 'how stuff works' web & there's not much on flywheels.
#17
Thanks for the offer. I'll keep that in mind. My bidness takes me out & about the LA Basin, so, if I'm in the neighborhood, I'll see whether you're in. The light flywheel just sounds like a good thing. Martha would probably recommened it.
#18
Just Flywheel
Originally posted by WP Gaston
Thanks for the offer. I'll keep that in mind. My bidness takes me out & about the LA Basin, so, if I'm in the neighborhood, I'll see whether you're in. The light flywheel just sounds like a good thing. Martha would probably recommened it.
Thanks for the offer. I'll keep that in mind. My bidness takes me out & about the LA Basin, so, if I'm in the neighborhood, I'll see whether you're in. The light flywheel just sounds like a good thing. Martha would probably recommened it.
You can also just get the Tilton Flywheel without the clutch and get the same fast accelleration. That might be what I do and then when I go FI, I'll get the Tilton Clutch.
Here's just the Flywheel
-Chris
#20
Originally posted by FritzMan
I believe a 7" clutch is also required to work with the flywheel though. I was under the impression that the OEM clutch won't work.
I believe a 7" clutch is also required to work with the flywheel though. I was under the impression that the OEM clutch won't work.
Jeff/Jason, can you answer this?
-Chris