What Flywheel Would You Get?
Originally posted by kvjacobz
Good question. Anyone?
Good question. Anyone?
That's a tough question. I know people with manual trannies and 100k miles who've never had to replace their clutch. And then there are people who have to replace the things after 20k miles due to abuse.
I'd guess you should be able to get at least 30k miles out of it if you don't do a bunch of clutch-drop, heavy-duty launches.I'm sure there are people here who won't get that much, and I'm sure there are people here who will easily double that with no problems.
Originally posted by Diesel350
What the JWT like performance wise?
What the JWT like performance wise?
If there is a difference in acceleration, it's relatively minor.It does rev quicker, allowing faster rev matching during shifting. That's why I bought it, and it's worth it in that respect.
Some people have talked about differences in engine braking when they lift their foot off the gas. However, I can't tell any difference. If I'm going down the highway and lift my foot off the gas, the car decelerates like it always has. Physics would dictate that there should be an increase in engine braking with a lighter flywheel, but I can't feel it.
If I could do it over again, would I? Yes. The stock flywheel is just ridiculously heavy, and never should've been put on a sports car like this. (My Audi station wagon had a lighter stock flywheel than the Z!) I would probably prefer something even a little bit lighter than the JWT's 14 pounds, but not too much lighter. If you decide to do a clutch at the same time, you can drop a few pounds that way. I believe the Nismo is lighter than the JWT clutch by a few pounds.
Originally posted by Z350Lover
So Jason..... just wondering to know.... how much does Nismo Clutch Cover weight compare to the stock clutch cover? And what is the benefit for getting that one? As I don't think I will move on to any unsprung clutch beacuse the gearbox will be nosiy as a b!atch if that's the case...
thanks!
cheers,
richie
So Jason..... just wondering to know.... how much does Nismo Clutch Cover weight compare to the stock clutch cover? And what is the benefit for getting that one? As I don't think I will move on to any unsprung clutch beacuse the gearbox will be nosiy as a b!atch if that's the case...
thanks!
cheers,
richie
+ whatz the weight for some carbon disc clutch?
In a post Jason@Performance made a while back, he stated (if I recall correctly) the Nismo clutch was a few pounds lighter than the JWT clutch, and the JWT clutch kit is apparently about the same weight as the stock clutch.
I just want to add that when upgrading the flywheel, you have effectively increased the amount work asked of the clutch. I don't know that the stock clutch will not handle a lightened flywheel but it will wear faster. You're going to have to change it at some point why not save time/money?
Like when I go to the store, I always buy toilet paper. I don't always need it... but why not? I'm already at the store and I'm gonna use up the supply I already have... what's the point in wasting a seperate trip to the store just for tp?
Of course, clutches aren't TP. I'm just saying what I think on the matter. Sorry for beating this to death. I'll stop now... hehe
Like when I go to the store, I always buy toilet paper. I don't always need it... but why not? I'm already at the store and I'm gonna use up the supply I already have... what's the point in wasting a seperate trip to the store just for tp?
Of course, clutches aren't TP. I'm just saying what I think on the matter. Sorry for beating this to death. I'll stop now... hehe
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Don't need to be sorry over this! You are totally right about that... it will be better to save some money, serious money that we are talking about on the labour to get the clutch swapped out in the near future if the clutch isn't new. And I think many people do that too though... I didn't opt for that option because my clutch was like totally new when I put my flywheel in and dealer told me that I will not need to swap it out any sooner... otherwise I would have definitely got it swapped too all together at once!
cheers,
richie
Don't need to be sorry over this! You are totally right about that... it will be better to save some money, serious money that we are talking about on the labour to get the clutch swapped out in the near future if the clutch isn't new. And I think many people do that too though... I didn't opt for that option because my clutch was like totally new when I put my flywheel in and dealer told me that I will not need to swap it out any sooner... otherwise I would have definitely got it swapped too all together at once!
cheers,
richie
Originally posted by Jason@Performance
stock flywheel 32 lbs... stock clutch about 34lbs... combines weight.. 66lbs... put on a jwt / jun flywheel... you got 38lbs... not that big of a difference considering all of the rotating mass and moment of inertia is on the out side of the flywheel anyway...
the tilton is a different world of flywheels and clutches... all of the rotatinal mass MOI is inside of the flywheels... within 7.25"... and the flywheel and clutch weights 16lbs TOTAL!
it is like comparing grape juice to a fine wine...
stock flywheel 32 lbs... stock clutch about 34lbs... combines weight.. 66lbs... put on a jwt / jun flywheel... you got 38lbs... not that big of a difference considering all of the rotating mass and moment of inertia is on the out side of the flywheel anyway...
the tilton is a different world of flywheels and clutches... all of the rotatinal mass MOI is inside of the flywheels... within 7.25"... and the flywheel and clutch weights 16lbs TOTAL!
it is like comparing grape juice to a fine wine...
Originally posted by jreiter
It may accelerate a bit quicker, but I'm not completely sure about that. (Might just be tricking myself into believing it because everyone says so.)
If there is a difference in acceleration, it's relatively minor.
It may accelerate a bit quicker, but I'm not completely sure about that. (Might just be tricking myself into believing it because everyone says so.)
If there is a difference in acceleration, it's relatively minor.
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