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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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Question Anyone Carbon clutches out there

Just curious if anyone is running carbon clutches? If so what kind and what do you think about it???
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 05:23 AM
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You dont like the Tilton ceramic??????
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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No, I basicly hate it now. I stall several times a day. to me the clutch is not consistant. I am always looking for ways to get somewhere that will have the least traffic or hills. I actually hate driving my car now. Once I'm going I love it, but starting out is WAY to much of a pain.
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 07:28 AM
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Me too....LOL but im just burning the clutch on starts... untill I can find a replacement clutch that doesnt cost a cubic ton..... I love the flywheel though...... I wonder what the final numbers on the street clutch will be.....
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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I have heard excellent reviews of the Exedy Hyper Carbon clutch for the 350Z...worth a look. Makes more grip the hotter it gets but still has a softer engagement for street driving.
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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check the forced induction section....we have sold quite a few ATS carbon/carbon's to people there, and everyone so far has loved it
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Z1 Performance
check the forced induction section....we have sold quite a few ATS carbon/carbon's to people there, and everyone so far has loved it
What's the carbon/carbon clutch worth???
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Old Sep 3, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Ooh...I'm looking forward to getting that combo... ATS carbon-carbon, about $2100, stock pedal feel, 9lb flywheel, 9-10" diameter, total weight 25lbs. It fits right between stock diameter aftermarket clutches and tilton. Probably is much more streetable than tilton as well.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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I've been waiting for the new tilton #'s from Jeff for the new street clutch. Nothing is out yet, but hopefully in the next week or so. I REALLY LOVE the fast rev and power the tilton puts down. But starting out is way to much for me. So I'm looking at the new tilton or the twin carbon tilton if I want to keep the SUPER FAST feel. The Exedy is said to be VERY streetable, but it will not even come close to the tilton when it comes to the HP the tilton free's up. The ATS might be a happy medium, but I'm not sure yet. Jeff at performance has been helping me out alot. Even the new tilton or carbon tilton will be a hand full. Even though they will be able to be slipped, The flywheel is so light, the car will still be VERY easy to stall from a start.
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 05:05 AM
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A clutch that is made of a material that allows more slip doesnt mean its gonna last longer right????? cause if I could slip more I would and I would burn it up faster than the ceramic I have now right???? The only diffrence is that the ability to do so would be there.... for like steep hills and bad traffic..... lovetoclown did you get pricing yet on all material we would need to switch to the new tilton clutch????
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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You basicly only need the clutch. The flywheel is the same. As for slipping, slipping on our cerametalic clutch isn't good. A quick slip is fine, but slipping too much is bad. The carbon clutches are more expensive, but they should last ALOT longer. Jeff told me that with the tilton twin carbon or street clutch, you have another second or two to react when the car tries to stall.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:50 AM
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I've got the tilton twin plate carbon/carbon clutch. Should be fitted, tomorrow and I should have my car back by the end of the week. I'll try to keep you posted.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by pyroteknix
I've got the tilton twin plate carbon/carbon clutch. Should be fitted, tomorrow and I should have my car back by the end of the week. I'll try to keep you posted.
Keep me posted. I would like to know what you think of the twin carbon.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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Im expecting the tilton street clutch packs in the next couple of weeks...

It is able to be manipulated just like stock... Ive staled only a couple of times and it has been from not paying attention... i would have stalled with the stock even...
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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Does the street clutch remove the jerky-studdering starts??
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by redline350ZZ
Does the street clutch remove the jerky-studdering starts??
From what Jeff at performance told me, Since the clutch lets you slip a LITTLE, you have an extra second or two to catch the car from stalling. With the flywheel being so light, the car will still want to stall as soon as the clutch touches it. I bet the new clutch will help but not stop the stalling or jerky starts.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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sorry about my newbie-ness when it comes to light flywheels, but i have a question:

when you're crusing (say at 60 in 5th gear) and you're going to downshift to 4th, so you'll disengage the clutch. that moment, since the flywheel is so light, the RPM will fall very fast, right? (saw this in one of Jason's videos) If you don't shift in time, will the RPM drop at such a fast rate that it will cause the engine to stall? Just curious.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:37 AM
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No..... I do about 1 second shifts when im crusing around.... once you get the start out of the way every other shift is relatively smooth....... my riders barely notice the upgraded clutch after first gear....
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 02:46 AM
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Wouldn't slipping the clutch, ever so slightly, make setting off much smoother? Like...a fairly tame, 0 rev, 1/4 mile start?

...or does the clutch not slip, at all?
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 05:11 AM
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The clutch redline350ZZ and I have does not really slip. Not like a stock or mild clutch anyway. We can slip it a very, very small amount. As soon as we start to let off the clutch, the cerametallic clutch disc wants to grab the flywheel hard, not slip. So starts are a pain, But after the start, its a blast.
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