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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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A few questions on this issue:

Other than an engine software programming issue, what will cause an engine to run rich at idle and steady state cruise?

My A/F sensors on BOTH cylinder banks are reading a fuel trim of 75% and giving me an SES light. After clearing the light, it came on again after about 150 miles of driving, during a steady interstate cruise. These are the only DTC's I am getting. (P1271 & P1281).

The obvious problem source would be the programming with my HKS supercharger piggyback computer, but is there anything else that I should be looking at? My car is a late 2004 model and is a ULEV. Any help/input much appreciated.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 01:26 PM
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Limp mode? Then again if it did enter limp mode, you shouldnt be able to rev past a certain range.

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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by G35sDriver
Limp mode? Then again if it did enter limp mode, you shouldnt be able to rev past a certain range.

No limp mode whatsoever. Didn't do it the first time and not this time. Car runs great.
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Old Nov 20, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Default Re: What will cause an engine to run rich?

Originally posted by Speedracer
A few questions on this issue:

Other than an engine software programming issue, what will cause an engine to run rich at idle and steady state cruise?

My A/F sensors on BOTH cylinder banks are reading a fuel trim of 75% and giving me an SES light. After clearing the light, it came on again after about 150 miles of driving, during a steady interstate cruise. These are the only DTC's I am getting. (P1271 & P1281).

The obvious problem source would be the programming with my HKS supercharger piggyback computer, but is there anything else that I should be looking at? My car is a late 2004 model and is a ULEV. Any help/input much appreciated.
Just a note , if your car is a late 2004 you should be ULEV2 , 2003 and early 2004 were ULEV, the "1" is implied. If the HKS PB dinks with the MAF signal, I'd suspect that area.
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Old Nov 21, 2004 | 02:45 AM
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Just a note , if your car is a late 2004 you should be ULEV2 , 2003 and early 2004 were ULEV, the "1" is implied. If the HKS PB dinks with the MAF signal, I'd suspect that area.
Thanks!!!! I'll forward this info to HKS!!!! Can you go into more detail on what you think the MAF related screw-up is?

Is the pre-cat A/F sensor just picking up a reading for too much fuel compared to the reading from the MAF since the MAF is, in fact, pre-supercharger.

I know the kit also reads Manifold pressure, but I have also tapped into this line for a boost gauge. Argggghhhhh.....so much to think about!!!!!?????
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 03:30 PM
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any update on this? I am having the same issue with my HKS GT SC and vpro/uprev reflash with code p1281
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