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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 06:29 AM
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I was looking for some really bright back up lights to combat having dark tint. Didn't know if anyone has seen any sold somewhere that will not short out a fuse or anything.

Any help is appreciated. Please try to refrain from don't get your windows tinted comments. I just need a little help when its pitch black outside at night and I'm looking through the back window.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 06:59 AM
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Get one of those big 12v spotlights that plug in the power port. They have them at boat shops.
Just stick your head out the window with a big a$$ spotlight.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:07 AM
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wrong, that would look way too funny , needs more brighter replacement bulbs.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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Aww...come on! Spoil all the fun. lol
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12v is 12 volts, its 21w and within those parameters, you wont find a brighter version. you could go to 27w possibly, but there is a risk of burning/discoloring the housing from the additional heat.
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What about led's?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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This would probably take some re-wiring but those fake xenon headlight bulbs.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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TryRunning PIAA bulbs. The PIAA hyper white type of bulbs are very strong and bright. I run the PIAA LED small wedge bulbs in the front headlights as my running lights and they are very close to the HID in color, and very bright as well.
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Originally posted by Tony@Performance
TryRunning PIAA bulbs. The PIAA hyper white type of bulbs are very strong and bright. I run the PIAA LED small wedge bulbs in the front headlights as my running lights and they are very close to the HID in color, and very bright as well.
so do you think that these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

will work in both the front and the rear?

Does Performance Nissan sell them?

Thanks
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:31 AM
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put a foglight in the rear...
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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Those multi-LED bulbs won't do the job at all when it comes to projecting light.

Too bad they don't have HID bulbs for use as back up lights :-P

Watch out for high wattage bulbs. The stock wire harness is designed to handle so much current. I had friends who used 100W bulbs in their Hondas. It's a wonder why their relays and wires kept burning out.

Someday, I'd like to experiement with high power LEDs (not Luxeons) that's used for mega displays in stadiums [evil laugh].
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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What percentage tint did you get?
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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yeah LEDs wont do a good job. their nifty, low power consumption, low heat(ussually), but unfortunatly miles short of filiments when it comes to light produced for a given size.

for example, I saw a concept audi article, they finally made a LED headlight, they did use luxeons. 18 luxeon V per headlight. those are 40$ a peice; and put out about 12 times the light of the luxeon LEDs I use. granted we arent talking about headlight output, but still, it was on an elaborate heatsink as well, and was quite large. even cut in half, not feasable.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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LEDs don't suffer from a light shortage as everyone keeps saying... you just have to know what to do with the light they DO produce. Current LEDs cannot compete with standard bulbs when it comes to total light ouput, but that's actually an advantage in such an application as this.

You want as much light aimed behind you (and slightly to the sides). A typical filament bulb spreads light in a 360 degree fashion, but an LED can be easily designed (or optics put on top) to narrow that field of view to something much more useful, like 30 degrees.

Trust me, if designed correctly, an LED will blow away an incandescent on a watt for watt basis in this type of application.

Luxeon IIIs are under $10/pc now, so a few of those set on white with some tight angle optics (for another $8-10/each) should give you a pretty good backup light. Of course, it also depends on how dark that tint is...



Oh, and ares, I think you meant the Luxeon III, not V. The Vs are not available in white.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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Originally posted by Jun
put a foglight in the rear...
haha

i might just end up doing that.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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there sthe luxeon V portable which is in white. but they didnt specify about that, just said they used luxeon Vs and the picture was definitly white. I do beleive they quoted the 100,000hour thing all LEDs say, didnt think about it, but that would be wrong, the portables only have 10,000hours.

maybe you have ideas, but I cant figure out a way to run any luxeon over 100mA in a sealed casing like these. not without extensive modification with heat tubes to pipe heat out. I contacted luxeons tech guys and asked them if a luxeon III would be cooler then luxeon I at equal currents, and they said no.

their not on for long, but I think 750mA in a closed compartment would start melting something pretty quick.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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Shoo at 350mA something melted already :-P
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Rather than trying to redesign the wheel, why not look at your goal and try finding a better way to attain it?

You have smoked signals/reverse lamps, why? I assume you like the darker appearance. Okay.

Rather than wasting time with attempting to increase the light output, why not go with a different setup?

We offer black housing reverse/signal assemblies that arent tinted. This way, there is no reduction in light output. Your stock bulb will emit a nice white light, no need to do any changes. In addition, we convert the more important item -- the signal assembly, to high intensity LED. Here is a link to our product:




More images here:
http://clearcorners.com/products/nissan/350ZX3/r_sig/

The signals are available in bright silver, gun-metal, and matte-black finish -- all of which look good and do not reduce light output. Stay away from tint sprays and overlays, they do nothing more than reduce the visibility of your car and make it unsafe.

- Mike / ClearCorners.Com
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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I believe he is talking about tint on his windows...not his lights.
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Old Dec 23, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by Santacruzslick
I believe he is talking about tint on his windows...not his lights.
correct the tint is on my windows not the backup lights which is clearly seen in my signature picture
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