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Old 11-01-2005 | 08:49 AM
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roflmao another lame xenon vendor photoshop

i wouldnt be buying any globes off a vendor who advertises the color difference by sliding the hue/saturation bar left to right
+1 to that as well!
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I'm 100% positive my bulbs are clear because they look exactly like stock. but they said 12k on the base of the bulb.I'm almost tempted to pull the bulb and take a pic to prove it but trust me, mine are clear. When they first come on they're blueish white then as they heat up they get darker purple. And last time I checked.......looking down at a light from the top....is an angle.
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When I hear angle I am lead to believe you meant from the side sorry I mis-understood. What I said still stands true, unless you are UNDER the cutoff it is going to have the blue color. My roommate has an S2000 and I have never seen such a colorful cutoff, and his flicker is pure beauty! I don’t need you to take a picture for me, I have just never heard of a 12k bulb that did not have a film on it. Also I noticed the OP is looking to get his lights from eBay, I PROMISE you those will have a film over the bulb and will probably burn out in a couple of months. I had 6k bulbs on my car when I bought it and the light sucked, so I can imagine how bad it would be on 12k. At 4100 Kelvin’s you are getting the full 3200 lumas, when you go up to 6k you are dropping to something like 2400 lumas. WHO KNOWS how many lumas a 12k bulb produces but I promise you it is alot less. Also the higher the Kelvin rating the more the light will break up in fog and rain. If you don’t drive your car at night, in the rain, or in the fog do it for the aesthetics if it’s what you like.

Check out that site in my previous post, There are lots of pics on how to get the blue/purple color you want out of 4100-4300k bulbs on full projection systems. Also do a search on 10k and 12k bulbs and see what you find. I'm not trying to argue or start a internet fight, I am just trying to help the OP out by letting him have all the info. It would suck to spend the money one somthing you end up throwing away in the end.
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This thread is a complete joke. All of you 12000K lovers out there need a bit of educating on what HID/xenons are all about. You need to learn the things like lumen output vs kelvin rating, color shifting, eye strain, light scatter, cut-offs, spread, etc.

These pics below demonstrate what a real xenon projector setup can achieve - not the crap that this thread originally started with:


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The whole purpose behind HID lighting is to put the most light on the road in a controlled spread. Going high kelvin, you have the light controlled, but you subsitute light output for color. What a joke.
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Originally Posted by Zivman
This thread is a complete joke. All of you 12000K lovers out there need a bit of educating on what HID/xenons are all about. You need to learn the things like lumen output vs kelvin rating, color shifting, eye strain, light scatter, cut-offs, spread, etc.

These pics below demonstrate what a real xenon projector setup can achieve - not the crap that this thread originally started with:



Man every time I see those TSX Projectors I cream myself. I was to lazy to go pull those pictures up, thanks for doing it Zivman!

When I do my retro I am torn between S2000 or TSX Projectors, which ever I pick is getting a color mod.
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Originally Posted by HockeyZ39
When I hear angle I am lead to believe you meant from the side sorry I mis-understood. What I said still stands true, unless you are UNDER the cutoff it is going to have the blue color. My roommate has an S2000 and I have never seen such a colorful cutoff, and his flicker is pure beauty! I don’t need you to take a picture for me, I have just never heard of a 12k bulb that did not have a film on it. Also I noticed the OP is looking to get his lights from eBay, I PROMISE you those will have a film over the bulb and will probably burn out in a couple of months. I had 6k bulbs on my car when I bought it and the light sucked, so I can imagine how bad it would be on 12k. At 4100 Kelvin’s you are getting the full 3200 lumas, when you go up to 6k you are dropping to something like 2400 lumas. WHO KNOWS how many lumas a 12k bulb produces but I promise you it is alot less. Also the higher the Kelvin rating the more the light will break up in fog and rain. If you don’t drive your car at night, in the rain, or in the fog do it for the aesthetics if it’s what you like.

Check out that site in my previous post, There are lots of pics on how to get the blue/purple color you want out of 4100-4300k bulbs on full projection systems. Also do a search on 10k and 12k bulbs and see what you find. I'm not trying to argue or start a internet fight, I am just trying to help the OP out by letting him have all the info. It would suck to spend the money one somthing you end up throwing away in the end.
the Z uses D2R and you only get 2900 lumens.
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Originally Posted by Biochem7
the Z uses D2R and you only get 2900 lumens.
Not mine but my roomates still puts down WAY more light to the ground than mine, b/c of the full projection! =/
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Originally Posted by Biochem7
the Z uses D2R and you only get 2900 lumens.
4100K = about 3500 lumens
4300K = about 3200 lumens

obviously this is approximation as every capsule can be different. The housing/projector used will determine the spread of the beam. With a full projector (D2S capsule) you get a much more even spread than with the reflector (D2R capsule)
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How about those pics, Dupont?
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pics will be up today. I had to work late last night and didnt get a chance to take them.I understand what hockey is saying and thats true I'll never be able to acheive the look of a projector but I was looking at what the light itself and not just around the edge or the cutoff. Plus without projectors I can never get that anyway so I agree and the light output is less but I see with no problem at night or in any weather.
"Different strokes for different folks" sums it up
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Hey if you like it thats all that matters, I am just trying to inform the OP of the problems that higher kelven bulbs have.
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cool!!
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14000k please
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Dupont, i bought some bulbs, but i'm actually waiting to see your pics before telling him whether or not i want 12000k. Hurry up man
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Here's the pics....sorry for takin so long
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What the heck!? Looks like the beam patters has been reduced by 75%!!! Also looks super dull, I dont know how you would see ANYTHING at night with those lights.
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maybe if I get some free time this weekend I'll swap one of the stock bulbs for a comparison but I see perfectly fine. and the pattern would be bigger if I backed away from the wall more...I was pretty close
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Originally Posted by DuPontG35
maybe if I get some free time this weekend I'll swap one of the stock bulbs for a comparison but I see perfectly fine. and the pattern would be bigger if I backed away from the wall more...I was pretty close
I know your pretty close but I have seen G35's against a wall that close (and my Z as well) and they didnt have that narrow bubble of light for each lamp. It should go down further and to the sides more

EDIT: you are a bit closer than I thought, but I still know when I parky my Z that close to the wall its alot bigger beam.
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Originally Posted by Zivman
4100K = about 3500 lumens
4300K = about 3200 lumens

obviously this is approximation as every capsule can be different. The housing/projector used will determine the spread of the beam. With a full projector (D2S capsule) you get a much more even spread than with the reflector (D2R capsule)
what do you think the paint on D2R bulbs do? they block light, check phillips, D2R is only 2900 lumens.


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