He can only change to a noncustom one unless he upgrades to a paid membership.

 

Trust me, if your idea was being stolen and copied, most people would think twice about what they are posting about being pro-copies.

 

What THE TECH said.....it would involve me paying the site $$$, to which I have no desire.

Besides, if I could change it, I'd just change to a different Cobain picture.....like this one, this is what I use on the other sites:

 

So you are saying it would be ok if the original designer was receiving royalties? Who does that benefit other than the designer? Sorry, but I spend my money to benefit ME and maximize MY spending power, not to "support" the already rich person I'm buying it from.

 

Like I said, you would be looking through different glasses if people were taking money out of your pockets for something that you designed. For some reason, you think that the manufacturer doesn't deserve what they want for it so as long as someone steals it and sells it cheaper to you, that's ok.

 

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o my bad robin. I thought you had this guy as your avatar:


whew, rofl. Cleared that up

keep cobain then. I was always wondering why you had 'kroeger' in your avatar, makes a bit more sense tho.

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And If I do?

Since when are the designers/makers of authentic body kits rich?
Most of them do it for the love of the sport.
The company Vertex started by the guy wanting to make an SC300 kit when no one else had it. Hes just another car enthusiast trying to make a living. They deserve the money more than billy bob who comes through and decides to make money off their stylings.

 

That's the unfortunate part about it. And even then, there are loopholes. The fact is, that each company KNOWS it's doing wrong. They just don't care. They know it's unethical, but when it comes to making money, they don't care who gets hurt as long as their pockets are lined with cash.

 

If I had the ability right now....I'd push the ban button on you after that comment.

I'd rather you staple my nut sack to a stump and inflict pain on my nuts with a hammer.....than listen to a f'ing Nickelback song.

I'll never forgive your comment...payback will be due at ZdayZ......

 

What you find unfortunate, some find fortunate.

Thats where the real debate comes in. Take for instance the Seibon TS2 and Top Secret hoods. I'm sure Seibon replicating this hood caused some loss in revenue for Top Secret and their distributors (very few), but think how many shops have gained revenue from the sale of Seibon's replicas. Or the money saved by the consumers who turned around and spent that extra money on other parts.

 

Since Top Secret never made a hood like that for the Z, there's really no debate. They just made a style similar to that.

Since Seibon started off as a replica company and continues that trend today, there is really no debate about it. Nothing can justify stealing other's designs, period.

 

Well you could see the potential irony then.......someone preaching about replica's but making $$ from selling them.

I thought you still sold them, so your comments just took me back a bit.

 

Like I said, I no longer sell them.

I know everyone wants to find every piece of minute information in order to make it more compelling that it's ok to make copies. It is not, period.

 

In your ethical standpoint, it's not. To others it is.

 

There is no standpoint bro. If you steal, then it's unethical. You aren't Robin Hood.

 

Like I have said before. Come up with an original product then watch someone copy it and see if you have the same answer. The only reason you are condoning copies is cause you're making money off them.

 

Did you have a recent epiphany or was it OK to sell those replica's when you did.....?

I ask because there's a vendor here who quite often gets on the "replica's are teh suckz" soap box, but still sells replica's. His argument is that it's basically ok to do so if the replica's are manufactured just as well as the OG.

They have not posted in this thread yet........

 

+1

I have the Shine V2 and I can tell you it's top notch! True, its a replica, but I think it rivals or surpasses the orginal in craftsmanship! On the other hand I would never buy a set of "knockoff' rims or no name FI piece!

When you have quality pieces on your car, like rims, FI kit, exhaust, Carbon pieces(replica or not), no one is gonna question if your V2 is Shine or Nismo!

 

Like I mentioned above, it was only the 350z TS ones. They were not replicas since TS never made an actual hood like that for the Z. Either way bro, if I wanted to I could still sell them and make money. Yet, I am not. Enough said.

 

I think I've made my point though so there's no reason for me to continue debating the issue with people who think stealing designs is ok as long as they sell them for cheaper than the originals.

You make the choice on what side to support...the thieves or the originators. One is ok and the other is not. There is no gray area.

Just take a moment and think of being in the shoes of the original manufacturer/designer. If you saw someone taking what you made and exploiting it, you would think twice about all this.