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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:40 PM
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I have a 6pt bolt in Cusco Cage in my car.

After doing some investigation i found out that neither the Sparco nor the BCR HArness Bars work with the Cusco Cage. The rear bars of the cage are in the way of the Harness Bars. This is from what ive read, havnt really seen pictures of the problem.

I know about Rally Innovations which ive seen it fits, but what other Harness Bars are out there?

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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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not familiar with the cage, but how does a full roll cage not have the ability to mount harnesses?

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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:53 PM
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plus do you even race your car or are you one of those people that think it is "cool" to have a roll cage in a street car
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 12:55 PM
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I know you've seen it, but the Rally Innovations fits perfect. Even if you run the Cusco option bars.
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 01:29 PM
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Cusco cage.....a deathtrap cage. I'm guessing he doesn't race and bought it for looks. OP are you going to be wrapping the bars with padding?
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA
not familiar with the cage, but how does a full roll cage not have the ability to mount harnesses?

-j
Because i bought their lowest model. Their 6pt Cage dosnt come with a harness bar, they have 4pt, 7pt, 9pt and so on. Same for Safety21 cages. I went with the low budget one.

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plus do you even race your car or are you one of those people that think it is "cool" to have a roll cage in a street car
Girls love roll cages.

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Cusco cage.....a deathtrap cage. I'm guessing he doesn't race and bought it for looks. OP are you going to be wrapping the bars with padding?
Yes i do race, do you?

The Cusco will do more than enough and save my *** on a rollover, saying its a deathtrap is a myth. And clearly it has padding, not having it would be a deathtrap.

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I know you've seen it, but the Rally Innovations fits perfect. Even if you run the Cusco option bars.
Thanks for sticking to the topic, i looked at it and it seems like my best option, 2 week lead time though.


Can we forget about the Cusco cage for now please?
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by got556
Cusco cage.....a deathtrap cage. I'm guessing he doesn't race and bought it for looks. OP are you going to be wrapping the bars with padding?
Any cage could be considered a deathtrap when not padded.

Now we can
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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With the way the Cusco fits together its not legal for SCCA, NHRA....etc. The only thing they approved for in the US as far as I know is drifting events.

If you want to race and run a bolt in then Autopower and Kirk Racing are the only ones I know of that will pass a safety inspection. Some wont pass NHRA...
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by josesantigo57


Yes i do race, do you?

No I don't race my Z but I've raced plenty of cars in the 1/4 and 1/8...used to be how I'd spend my weekends. But I've done enough research for when I start to race my Z I know the only two safe (and more so semi safe) options are Kirk and Autopower. WTF do you think those bends in the tubes towards the front of your A Pillars are gonna do on that Cusco cage in the event of a rollover!?!? Not to mention those stupid effin bolts/tabs right above and behind your skull!?!? Keep talking like you know something...it's becoming comedy.


And if we're looking out for fellow Z drivers...why the eff should we "forget" about the cage. It's extremely poorly designed and is gonna kill somebody one of these days due to overconfidence in the cage....
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cant you weld a bar across from one point of the cage to another and provide a means of harness bar?

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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by got556
No I don't race my Z but I've raced plenty of cars in the 1/4 and 1/8...used to be how I'd spend my weekends. But I've done enough research for when I start to race my Z I know the only two safe (and more so semi safe) options are Kirk and Autopower. WTF do you think those bends in the tubes towards the front of your A Pillars are gonna do on that Cusco cage in the event of a rollover!?!? Not to mention those stupid effin bolts/tabs right above and behind your skull!?!? Keep talking like you know something...it's becoming comedy.


And if we're looking out for fellow Z drivers...why the eff should we "forget" about the cage. It's extremely poorly designed and is gonna kill somebody one of these days due to overconfidence in the cage....
Really? You think the bends in the roll cage will break in a rollover? Right.. Stop hating bro. Do some more research there are plenty of pictures of rollovers with cusco cages, intact. Also, Safety21 cages are less known but are raced more and they have the exact same bends and bolts/tabs.

What can I say, i work in HBO comedy.

Originally Posted by JasonZ-YA
cant you weld a bar across from one point of the cage to another and provide a means of harness bar?

- j
Yea i probably could, but i dont really want to hace to take the cage out. Im kind of lazy haha. I ended up purchasing the Rallyinnovations bar, ill post pics when installed.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by josesantigo57
Really? You think the bends in the roll cage will break in a rollover? Right.. Stop hating bro. Do some more research there are plenty of pictures of rollovers with cusco cages, intact. Also, Safety21 cages are less known but are raced more and they have the exact same bends and bolts/tabs.

What can I say, i work in HBO comedy.



Hmm why wouldnt anyone allow the Cusco's on the track for any real sanctioned event other then drift, because they hold up so well

Look at the bolt points on the Cusco VS say an Autopower. Cusco has a bolt holding two holes together. Autopower or Kirk have the tube sleeve over the other tube with a bolt to lock it. For that to break the actual tube would have to fail rather then a simple bolt.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by josesantigo57
Really? You think the bends in the roll cage will break in a rollover? Right.. Stop hating bro. Do some more research there are plenty of pictures of rollovers with cusco cages, intact. Also, Safety21 cages are less known but are raced more and they have the exact same bends and bolts/tabs.

What can I say, i work in HBO comedy.
It's more like he's trying to prevent you from making a potentially fatal mistake. Let me ask you this, do you have side and side curtain airbags? If you do, then by choosing Cusco cage is definitely a no no....
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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Isn't the reason for the Cusco cage having so many issues because it was made for use in Japan? I've never really found an answer, but from everything I have read on it, it was only approved by D1 here, and a bunch of different organizations over there.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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It's more like he's trying to prevent you from making a potentially fatal mistake. Let me ask you this, do you have side and side curtain airbags? If you do, then by choosing Cusco cage is definitely a no no....
I would really like to know why running a Cusco is a fatal mistake. Everyone hates on it but Ive still haven't heard of anyone getting hurt because of its failure.

In Japan these cages are raced more than extensively and again not one story of its failure has reached the states. I don't really think a company such as Cusco which is all about motor sports would produce something that would not work..think about it. Take a moment.

I do not race professionally, i just track my car at least once a month. However many many professional drivers have looked and driven my car and none of them have ever mentioned to be careful of my cage because of its design on the contrary I always get two thumbs up. I don't want to sound rude, but id rather take their word for it.

I'm gonna let this thread go because it has gone way off topic and i got no answer to my question, just haters. Apparently its a big no no to mention Cusco cages on this forums. Ridiculous.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:25 PM
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Once again we aren't haters....we're trying to help you in preventing a more serious injury than what may happen if you were in a bad wreck. But like you said...I'll just let this go b/c I'd have more luck convincing a brick wall....
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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if it happens , it happens. people who put cusco cages in their car should know the risk so i don't see the problem. if they don't see the bar on top of their head, they shouldn't be driving. And if they are unlucky enough to actually hit their head on that bar in a crash, that would be bad.

I would just let them be. I think there is nothing wrong with the cusco cage at all. No reason to bash.
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