Heya,

Hopefully someone can explain this to me.

I have an 05 350z and it has HID headlights on it already

I was looking at the JDM Black Headlights and was thinking about buying them
Before someone says it, I know I can modify the ones I already have, but I don't want to do that.

Anyways my problem is Ive seen several places where it says that the JDM lights are NOT FOR w/ FACTORY INSTALLED HID's... so the question is, really? and why? Anyone know?

Thanks!!!

 

What are the "JDM Black Headlights"?

 

because those cheap, ebay knock-off lights are halogen lights made for the base model cars. and just because it is advertised as "JDM" that does not make it so.

 

Because they are cheap?

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-04...1%7C240%3A1318

no good?

 

It says in red.
"DO NOT FIT 03-05 350Z WITH FACTORY HID KIT"
These are made for the Non Hid 350z.

 

LVZ053, Thanks, but I think I already knew that and said it in my 1st post

Basically I just didnt know there were all that many options for lights in the z
because all the ones Ive ever seen look exactly like mine (except the newer ones)

I cant imagine they put different wiring in the car did they?

No one can help with this?

They look exactly like the lights in my car now (except for the black)
and they use the same bulbs so it doesnt seem to make sense

Thanks!

 

^^^LOL....you were so right!!!how did you know they were ebay lights?

 

Maybe there are different connectors used with the HID vs Halogen?

 

Different bulb fittings.

They are not "JDM", I'm sick of seeing companies falsely titling their cheap sh*t as JDM.

 

man you guys are about as much help as acid in your face

1st off anything can be found on ebay (maybe even someone could find your brain on there minispider) that doesnt make something an "ebay" whatever...

If I show you a link to a 100% OE headlight that comes in a Nissan Box that would be an "ebay" light too I guess? Idiot

2nd only thing owned recently is a tshirt that says "Just ignore that idiot minispider over there ->" I got today

3rd Yes, this is what Im asking, is there a different connector on my wire harness? if so that really wouldn't make much sense to me BUT is there anyone here who actually knows anything about nissan wiring?

Thank You!!

Maybe Ive got this figured out but if anyone can confirm or contribute that would be appreciated

Maybe these lights arent all the same (which I thought they were)

Heres a dif set I was looking at

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/03-04...22155002r31509

Those say they use the same bulbs that my current lights use (at least I think thats the bulbs I currently use) and they dont say anything about compatibility issues

 

Dood, yes there are two different sets of headlight wiring for 03-05 cars.

 

Show me a true JDM headlight that comes with a black housing, and I'll buy you a pair.


If you have 03-05 HID headlights, you use a D2R bulb, not H7.
H7 is halogen.
The headlights you find on egay are halogen.
D2R are not the same as halogen.
D2R and H7 have different bulb bases.
They are different.
If you have stock HIDs, they do not use the same bulb.


Do you need any more clarification?

 

My lights come on slow and I can see them heating up so I'm "assuming" that means they are HID's

That correct?

If I knew what bulb I had in there and what connector etc I had etc etc etc etc I wouldnt have to ask any of these questions

and yes I could use some more clearification

Common sense would indicate that the car would have the same wire harness no matter which light was installed

I guess my question is this...

IS NISSAN REALLY STUPID ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE ENTIRE WIRE HARNESS OF A CAR JUST TO SWAP OUT A HEADLIGHT? Its looking that way I guess.

I was just looking for a cheap set of lights that I could screw around with instead of popping open my $1800 worth of lights and taking a chance on screwing them up.

but if they arent the same bulbs or close to the same as mine then I dont want them

...and an H7 bulb when you go to buy it is listed like this

Description:
H7 XENON HID BULB

º Make: Nissan
º Model: 350Z
º Year: 03 - 05
º Colors: 6000K White Laser, 8500K Blue, 12000K Purple

So how in the world am I supposed to figure this crap out?

I guess Im supposed to know when they said HID bulb they really meant Halogen
Next time Ill know better

I come here for help and I get picked on cause I said JDM

Thanks....

 

You're not getting picked on because you said "JDM," you may feel like you are "getting picked on" only because you insist on asking the same question 50 different ways. The answer to your question has been answered already within this thread.

 

well posibly it has but not to any reasonable amount of specifics, which is what I was looking for

1st I wanted to know about those lights but more importantly I wanted to know....

specifically Im asking if a 2005 350z will have 2 completely different wire harnesses depending on which headlights are installed?

or if not completely different specifically what would be different

Is there an adapter? etc etc

think of it another way

Im a pretty smart and technically able guy who has ABSOLUTELY NO knowlege about this subject.

Hopefully I can find someone who's just as able and has ALL the knowlege on this subject who would care to explain it to me in a better way then.....

"D2R and H7 have different bulb bases" and "Dood, yes there are two different sets of headlight wiring for 03-05 cars.

This is what you consider an answer to my question?

Ill figure it out myself

Thanks anways. "dood"

 

all 2003-2005 base models had different headlights (halogen). the enthusiast and above models have HID. 2006 and above have bi-xenon hid lights, all models.

no need to answer because they are completely different. one is HID and the other is halogen.

no, there is not an adapter to downgrade your headlights from HID to halogen

this is true

those that have answered you have owned their Z for a lot longer than you, and have been around and seen this very question asked and aswered numerous times since the forum has started. the answer is still the same.

dude, those are the answers to your questions.

no, you won't. it has already been answered numerous times in this thread yet you are too dense to understand that halogen lights are not the same set up as the HID lights. guess it is time to request a name change since you are definitely not aware

good luck with your "JDM" headlights.

 

You look for answers, and we gave you them.

 

There is no reason for the original poster to get so upset. Here is a website you can go to that will explain the replacement lights needed for the 350Z. You will note they have a section for the Z's equipped with halogen lights and another pull down section for those with HID lights. Even though the headlights look the same from the outside, the are different internally. The connections are different and I believe the wiring harness is different as well. I can't understand why the original poster is having such a difficult time understanding. Possibly he should take a couple deep breaths and calm down.

http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...otiveLighting/

 

Well I know you all think you answered my question before, but from the perspective of someone who has no clue what you're talking about, none of you were very clear until Z04's "somewhat" technical answer.

For the most part it just seemed like you were more interested in me calling them "JDM" then anything else. I only called them that because thats what they are listed as. JDM, MDJ, BFD, Wh0Fk'nC4r3s... Maybe I should have called them cheap black plastic lights. <- That make everyone happy?

You forget that "you know what youre talking about, I don't". It may make sense to you but doesnt mean it makes sense to me

So anyways what Im getting is that in 05 the base model had Halogen headlights and all other models had HID headlights and the base model had a completely different wire harness in it. (kinda stupid for nissan to do, but OK)

...and all those lights that I see online (wherever they are, ebay or otherwise) for the most part are Halogen lights and the H7 Bulbs (even though they say they are HID) are not HID headlights.

I got that right?

...and Z04 I didnt buy my Z yesterday it's just that til now I didnt give a crap about what kind of Headlights I had in it. I also understand very well that there are many different kinds of lights, but until someone explains it to me plainly and clearly I wont understand the differences clearly. When I see an H7 bulb listed for sale and they call it a HID bulb then someone on here tells me its a Halogen how am I supposed to understand the difference?

KornerCarver thanks for the link I do think that I have a better understanding after Z04 finally tried to actually answer my question but Ill give the link a look.

Looking at that Sylvania website...

2005 NISSAN 350Z (With HID (high intensity discharge) headlamps)

Low beam headlamp
HID-D2R

High beam headlamp
H7

2005 NISSAN 350Z (With halogen capsule headlamps)

Low beam headlamp
H7

High beam headlamp
H1

The H7 is the High Beam in the HID Light and it's the Low Beam in the Halogen Light.......and nobody understands why Im confused???? LOL

Anyways, Thanks guys, Sorry if i seemed upset but it was a bit frustrating.

I think I have enough info now that at least I doubt Id want to buy those lights which is mainly what I was trying to figure out