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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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I was referring to the part where he said it is ricey
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 12:15 PM
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I have 3k fogs and 6k for my low/high beams in my G35. I really wish I would have gotten either 5k or 8k's instead of the 6k's. I cant see **** at night, my fogs over power my low beams. At least with the 5k's I could have a white light when I turn off the fogs or the 8ks so I can see past the fog lights.

But 10k+ is pointless unless your going for "cool" points but even then your not cool.
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Conway_160
I have 3k fogs and 6k for my low/high beams in my G35. I really wish I would have gotten either 5k or 8k's instead of the 6k's. I cant see **** at night, my fogs over power my low beams. At least with the 5k's I could have a white light when I turn off the fogs or the 8ks so I can see past the fog lights.

But 10k+ is pointless unless your going for "cool" points but even then your not cool.


i really doubt that you will see past the fog light with 8000k, it's dimmer than your 6000k
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Conway_160
I have 3k fogs and 6k for my low/high beams in my G35. I really wish I would have gotten either 5k or 8k's instead of the 6k's. I cant see **** at night, my fogs over power my low beams. At least with the 5k's I could have a white light when I turn off the fogs or the 8ks so I can see past the fog lights.

But 10k+ is pointless unless your going for "cool" points but even then your not cool.
8K would be worse than 6K. My buddy runs 3k fogs and 6k heads and has never had a problem seeing. I've driven his truck a few times with no issues.

AND FWIW, it's illegal to drive with your fog lights on when it is not foggy. When you get a ticket, don't cry on here about it.

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i really doubt that you will see past the fog light with 8000k, it's dimmer than your 6000k
You can't go off those charts. Look at the one provided by the bulb manufacturer. They all will vary some. 12k from one company may be dark blue while 12k from another is purple. (I had a friend that wanted really blue lights and he ended up with purple.)
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 92K1500
8K would be worse than 6K. My buddy runs 3k fogs and 6k heads and has never had a problem seeing. I've driven his truck a few times with no issues.

AND FWIW, it's illegal to drive with your fog lights on when it is not foggy. When you get a ticket, don't cry on here about it.
It's illegal in Oklahoma because that state is GHEYYYY!
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 92K1500
You can't go off those charts. Look at the one provided by the bulb manufacturer. They all will vary some. 12k from one company may be dark blue while 12k from another is purple. (I had a friend that wanted really blue lights and he ended up with purple.)
the temperature and color is based on the wave length of different color of lights, if you get something different, the manufacturer either labeled it wrong or provide inferior products. get quality bulbs for consistent color output
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Old Dec 26, 2013 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by goose691
I was referring to the part where he said it is ricey
The first step to a cure is admitting you've got a problem.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by goose691
That's your opinion, which you are more than welcome to have. I won't get pulled over in my state, there are people running around with 30000k purple HIDs, nothing more rice than blue lights, how about purple or I have even seen green.
No, its a fact. If 10K were better, why isn't it OEM? OEM is dictated 100% by safety.

The whole "blue" headlight thing was a ricer misunderstanding. At the cutoff of good projectors there is often a blue/purple colorband due to the diffraction around the low beam shield and through the projector lens.



Ricers see this band from an oncoming car and stupidly think this means the whole beam is blue, when in reality the beam is white. Where in the world do you ever see blue/purple lights in places people need to see? Surgeons don't use 10K lights in the theater. Military doesn't use 10K lights in combat. Etc etc. So what exactly is your proof that 10K lights are better?

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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 03:49 AM
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I had 8k in my 04 hid headlights. I have 10k in my 06+ headlights. They're both similar to me. I wouldn't go past 8-10k. Visibility was fine for me w both.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Osborn Wu
the temperature and color is based on the wave length of different color of lights, if you get something different, the manufacturer either labeled it wrong or provide inferior products. get quality bulbs for consistent color output
I never mentioned quality. I was just saying make sure you look at what the bulb manufacturer says. Just because it's supposed to be something doesn't mean that's what you're going to get.

Not everyone wants to spend the money for quality.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 08:38 AM
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Another thing to keep in mind when buying bulbs is the variability that occurs between every aftermarket lighting company.

Some companies may advertise a 6000K color as a "pure white" but it might be similar to another companies' 8000K which is actually an "icy white"

Our bulbs are more on the whiter side of the scale because we focus on the usable light aspect of the HID conversions, the cosmetic benefits are an added benefit IMO.

Here's our Kelvin scale for reference:

It's also important to note that bulbs may look different in one housing vs. another.

Also, OP I lived in Leawood, KS for the majority of my life and I will admit that KS is one of the least aggressive states when it comes to getting pulled over for non-moving violations. With that being said, you greatly increase your chances of getting pulled over by having a modification to your car that might be considered a "distraction" to other drivers.

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1. Less usable light outut
2. Increased possibility of legal issues
3. We don't carry beyond 8000K for reasons #1, #2
4. It's personal preference, but #1, #2 are worth noting

Please feel free to PM me should you have any questions about lighting, even if you aren't looking to purchase anything, I'm here to help

Thanks!
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 08:56 AM
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Thanks nick, what would the price be on the 8000k bulbs. As mentioned before I went with 10000k because the company I bought from didn't have anything less in stock, I don't mind the 10000k but I know 8000k gives more useable light. Also to everyone who has previously posted, I will say once again that I am not ignorant, I know that 10000k are dimmer than stock halogens and I will once again say that the halogen bulbs that were previously in my car were most likely near the end of their lifespan and were probably really cheap anyway because they were very dim, dimmer than the 10000k, so please dont misinterperet this as me being unintelligent, I simply went with what was available and what would be better than what I already had.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by TuckerE36
It's illegal in Oklahoma because that state is GHEYYYY!
They typically don't say anything. He was just fishing for something bigger. He said my fog lights were blinding him (he was in a Tahoe on a sunny day) and gave me a verbal warning for them and having a broken turn signal lens. Couldn't find anything bigger to harrass me for.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 09:30 AM
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lol i didnt know 2 dimensional visibility was "cool"

smh
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by goose691
That's your opinion, which you are more than welcome to have. I won't get pulled over in my state, there are people running around with 30000k purple HIDs, nothing more rice than blue lights, how about purple or I have even seen green.
Apparently the ricer spectrum is shifted a bit farther down in Kansas.

Anyways, if you done any search on this forum, the consensus is that most don't mind stock 4300K. Those that like to mod their bulbs go with 6000K. There are those that buy 8000K (like myself - because I live in the suburbs/big city where the streets are well lit and it's still pretty crystal white/blue). Beyond that is just purely cosmetics and does little for your visibility (past 4300K is already a reduction).

Also the brand/quality of the bulbs impact the color temperature ratings as well. If you purchase cheap China bulbs, their 10000K will look bluer/purpler than say an expensive Japanese bulb.
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Old Dec 27, 2013 | 10:52 AM
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I run 6000k in my cars/trucks and 6500k in my house.
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 10:21 AM
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b-b-but i thought anything higher was always better?
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Old Dec 28, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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Not my style but I do enjoy seeing the super blue or purple headlights once in a while. SoCal is not very mod friendly and does affect certain car mod tastes here.
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