Replacing stock HIDs?
![cquence 350 [Z]'s Avatar](https://my350z.com/forum/images/avatars/27.jpg)
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 891
Likes: 0
From: 1st TT Z in Sactown!
Originally posted by Watkins
These are 6K D2R's on my car.
This is right after the turn on.
This is a little over a minute after turn on.
When compared to a stock 4100k Z at night, there is a huge difference. I am pleased with the outcome.
These are 6K D2R's on my car.
This is right after the turn on.
This is a little over a minute after turn on.
When compared to a stock 4100k Z at night, there is a huge difference. I am pleased with the outcome.
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 891
Likes: 0
From: 1st TT Z in Sactown!
Originally posted by NismoKid
Putting D2S bulbs in your car will make it look brighter only because of glare. The strip of metal on the bottom of the DSR bulb is there so no light will reflect back up and into the eyes of drivers when using a reflector housing.
If our lights were fully enclosed in a projector, the light emitted from the bottom of the bulb would reflect up, (since no metal strip on bottom of D2S bulb) hit the lens, and refract either straight ahead or down. D2S will only cause glare to other drivers in a reflector only housing, which will make you think that you have brighter lights.
Haven't you ever seen halogen equiped cars with lights not adjusted properly? They blind oncoming traffic, but it looks brighter because you see all the light shining in your face.
Here are some drawings I made and they're pretty self-explainatory. Keep in mind I do not know the dimensions inside the 350Z light housing so I don't know what % of light would shine out and upward of the housing when using D2S. These are only to get the point across. Also, the lens on the 350Z housing will reduce the glare with a D2S bulb compared to an all reflector housing with a D2S bulb.
Putting D2S bulbs in your car will make it look brighter only because of glare. The strip of metal on the bottom of the DSR bulb is there so no light will reflect back up and into the eyes of drivers when using a reflector housing.
If our lights were fully enclosed in a projector, the light emitted from the bottom of the bulb would reflect up, (since no metal strip on bottom of D2S bulb) hit the lens, and refract either straight ahead or down. D2S will only cause glare to other drivers in a reflector only housing, which will make you think that you have brighter lights.
Haven't you ever seen halogen equiped cars with lights not adjusted properly? They blind oncoming traffic, but it looks brighter because you see all the light shining in your face.
Here are some drawings I made and they're pretty self-explainatory. Keep in mind I do not know the dimensions inside the 350Z light housing so I don't know what % of light would shine out and upward of the housing when using D2S. These are only to get the point across. Also, the lens on the 350Z housing will reduce the glare with a D2S bulb compared to an all reflector housing with a D2S bulb.
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Nu JeRZee
Originally posted by Watkins
These are 6K D2R's on my car.
This is right after the turn on.
This is a little over a minute after turn on.
When compared to a stock 4100k Z at night, there is a huge difference. I am pleased with the outcome.
These are 6K D2R's on my car.
This is right after the turn on.
This is a little over a minute after turn on.
When compared to a stock 4100k Z at night, there is a huge difference. I am pleased with the outcome.
I'm getting alot of mixed info from different websites such as the aformentioned:
www.motionr.com
www.hidking.com
www.misterjung.com
www.plasmagarage.com
Has anyone dealt with any of the three below listed HID D2R bulb retailers?? Every website has a different definition of 8000K and 6000K...Some say 6000K is purple some say blue and vice versa. I'm also weary about HID King because although good price, a "universal" bulb that fits both D2R and D2S housings concerns me. What happened to this ceramic paint on the base of the D2R that differentiates the two? I want to get this right. I enjoyed the mostly bluish (agreed not functional) 8000K color Taiwanese/Japanes HID kit (manufactured by Hanabi/NewTech International)I had on my previous 98 Toyota Corolla.
Peace all...
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Fake HID bulbs? I'm using MotionR 6000k D2S on my Porsches. They're the best in the market. They perform better & cost less than Philips.
Originally posted by bgwillyis300
ok guys apparently NONE f you have any real knowledge when it comes to HID's.
1.>>>the guy who posted www.motionr.com was the way to go. Is a complete MORON. Those are FAKE HID BULBS .
2. the stock HID bulbs are i believe closer to 4300k. And the reason the s2k and M3 have bluer appearance is because the Fully enclosed projector lenses.
3. D2s & D2r.....if you upgrade i suggest going to D2s. especially with the 350Z headlights. Much will be much brighter in my expeirence.
4. the whole increase Lumens= less visiblity. Is scientifically correct. But i have upgraded on IS300 an not noticed any brightness difference at all. If anything my visibility went up. Actually people are always flashing lights at me now because of the brightness.
if you upgrade to 6000k......the best manufacturer is by far PHILLIPs.
i wouldnt purchase anything else!
ok guys apparently NONE f you have any real knowledge when it comes to HID's.
1.>>>the guy who posted www.motionr.com was the way to go. Is a complete MORON. Those are FAKE HID BULBS .
2. the stock HID bulbs are i believe closer to 4300k. And the reason the s2k and M3 have bluer appearance is because the Fully enclosed projector lenses.
3. D2s & D2r.....if you upgrade i suggest going to D2s. especially with the 350Z headlights. Much will be much brighter in my expeirence.
4. the whole increase Lumens= less visiblity. Is scientifically correct. But i have upgraded on IS300 an not noticed any brightness difference at all. If anything my visibility went up. Actually people are always flashing lights at me now because of the brightness.
if you upgrade to 6000k......the best manufacturer is by far PHILLIPs.
i wouldnt purchase anything else!
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
From: Los Angeles
Higher Lumens = More visibility
Higher Color temp = less lumens = less visibility.
Don't listen to this newbie. He doesn't know anything about HID.
Higher Color temp = less lumens = less visibility.
Don't listen to this newbie. He doesn't know anything about HID.
Originally posted by bgwillyis300
ok guys apparently NONE f you have any real knowledge when it comes to HID's.
1.>>>the guy who posted www.motionr.com was the way to go. Is a complete MORON. Those are FAKE HID BULBS .
2. the stock HID bulbs are i believe closer to 4300k. And the reason the s2k and M3 have bluer appearance is because the Fully enclosed projector lenses.
3. D2s & D2r.....if you upgrade i suggest going to D2s. especially with the 350Z headlights. Much will be much brighter in my expeirence.
4. the whole increase Lumens= less visiblity. Is scientifically correct. But i have upgraded on IS300 an not noticed any brightness difference at all. If anything my visibility went up. Actually people are always flashing lights at me now because of the brightness.
if you upgrade to 6000k......the best manufacturer is by far PHILLIPs.
i wouldnt purchase anything else!
ok guys apparently NONE f you have any real knowledge when it comes to HID's.
1.>>>the guy who posted www.motionr.com was the way to go. Is a complete MORON. Those are FAKE HID BULBS .
2. the stock HID bulbs are i believe closer to 4300k. And the reason the s2k and M3 have bluer appearance is because the Fully enclosed projector lenses.
3. D2s & D2r.....if you upgrade i suggest going to D2s. especially with the 350Z headlights. Much will be much brighter in my expeirence.
4. the whole increase Lumens= less visiblity. Is scientifically correct. But i have upgraded on IS300 an not noticed any brightness difference at all. If anything my visibility went up. Actually people are always flashing lights at me now because of the brightness.
if you upgrade to 6000k......the best manufacturer is by far PHILLIPs.
i wouldnt purchase anything else!
Originally posted by cquence 350 [Z]
Very nice Watkins, how hard was it changing the bulbs? Did you already have the HID on your car already or did you have just regular halogen bulbs? I want to change mine as well but I dont know how to do it.
Very nice Watkins, how hard was it changing the bulbs? Did you already have the HID on your car already or did you have just regular halogen bulbs? I want to change mine as well but I dont know how to do it.
The bulb swap was a piece of cake, seriously. The only real effort is jacking the car up and pulling out the inner fenderwells to gain access to the bulbs.
As for a full swap, you can run the search, and there are a couple of how-to's complete with pictures, and if you buy the whole plug and play kit, its ridiculously easy from the looks of things.
Originally posted by herbrock17
That's the "prettier" color outcome I am looking for on my DB Z...what brand bulbs, how much, and from where if you don't mind me asking?? I like the bluish/whitish color similar to what the stock HID's have when they are first ignited.
That's the "prettier" color outcome I am looking for on my DB Z...what brand bulbs, how much, and from where if you don't mind me asking?? I like the bluish/whitish color similar to what the stock HID's have when they are first ignited.
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: cincy
Originally posted by topdaytrader
Higher Lumens = More visibility
Higher Color temp = less lumens = less visibility.
Don't listen to this newbie. He doesn't know anything about HID.
Higher Lumens = More visibility
Higher Color temp = less lumens = less visibility.
Don't listen to this newbie. He doesn't know anything about HID.
go ahead everybody go to Motionr.com and BUY FAKE HIDs
here are a few Quotes from this morons MotionR site.
1. "Combining Super White Technology with high power halogen bulb. "
2."Our latest technology provides the closest thing to super-intense H.I.D. lighting you have seen on the high-end imports and domestics! "
these are HALOGEN bulbs
oh **** i get halfway through that guys motionR site....and then notice that there is one REAL HID bulb at the VERY bottom of the page.
so i apologize for Bashing that site.
but i would still be very weary of a site that sells the cheap fake ****....and the fact that the real HID bulb they carry is only $95.
Phillips is around $200.00
buy Phillips thats all the best advice i can give!!
New Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,879
Likes: 1
From: Location Location
It's hard to find Philips 6000K HID bulbs since no car manfacturer uses any HIDs over the 4000-5000K range. They do make some, but not many, so it'll be hard to find. Most will be rip offs of Philips and just rebranded. E-mail or call the people at www.suvlights.com and ask if they can get you a set. They've been around for a while if that help.
Yeah please do because when it comes to HIDs I can sense a lot of BS blue painted Halogens floating around on Ebay and such. I just don't really trust Ebay vendors for the most part and half of these websites feel very amature in nature. I am curious why Bulletproof or MVP motorsports don't sell higher temp HID bulbs. ::Shrug:::
~Josh
~Josh
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: cincy
ok guys.
i got an email...from my Is300 buds.
this guy supposedly sells all kinds of HId bulbs.
he also has the Phillips 6000k's for only $250 shipped i believe.
so thats $30 cheaper than www.Suvlights.com
but nehow....here is his email....hopefully he still doesn business...i havetn used him in like a year.
jus4bulbs@yahoo.com
i use to have another site besides Suvlights.com that was reputable but i cant seem to think of it right now.
i can Assure you the email guy sells top quality stuff...all brand new.
i got an email...from my Is300 buds.
this guy supposedly sells all kinds of HId bulbs.
he also has the Phillips 6000k's for only $250 shipped i believe.
so thats $30 cheaper than www.Suvlights.com
but nehow....here is his email....hopefully he still doesn business...i havetn used him in like a year.
jus4bulbs@yahoo.com
i use to have another site besides Suvlights.com that was reputable but i cant seem to think of it right now.
i can Assure you the email guy sells top quality stuff...all brand new.
New Member
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,879
Likes: 1
From: Location Location
bgwillyis300, I think the other site you're thinking of is www.HIDs4less.com. They shut down operations because the government made aftermarket HIDs illegal.
Registered User
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
From: cincy
nah i know that place as well.....**** there name is a lil off they wanted $400 for a pair of 6000k bulbs.
there was another site ....that sold them for like 225 but i cant remember what it was called....none the less $250 is a good deal!
there was another site ....that sold them for like 225 but i cant remember what it was called....none the less $250 is a good deal!
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
You wont find Philips 6000k bulbs because Philips doesnt make 6000k bulbs. Anyone claiming to sell Philips is 6000k has rebased the bulb and is most likely a cheap Korean ripoff. MisterJung is a scam. He's stolen money from bimmerforum members and numerous other forums. And to say a bulb is "The best in the market" is pretty generic. There are plenty of good brands, pick the one that suits you.
The higher the lumens to more visibility. Stock halogens are around 800 lumens. A good 5000k kit can put out around 3000 lumens. I have a 6000k kit in my M3 that puts out about 2800 lumens.
The higher the lumens to more visibility. Stock halogens are around 800 lumens. A good 5000k kit can put out around 3000 lumens. I have a 6000k kit in my M3 that puts out about 2800 lumens.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Colombo
Forced Induction
35
Nov 9, 2020 10:27 AM
