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01-25-2008, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by maximumsportZ
Tom, (CoachK) we need to talk buddy, I'm planning on going on a juice cycle. Need some Gear recomendations.
Deca, Winstrol, HGH, and Insulin....oh and about $10K to start. that oughta get ya goin. Add in some anavar and anadrol for kicks too.
01-25-2008, 11:21 AM
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test E 500mg's a week 10 weeks eat lift and have proper pct 20 pounds later youll be happy 
. Im a mod on 3 bodybuidling forums i just think it woudl be cool to have one here you dont have to visit it if you dont want to.
. Im a mod on 3 bodybuidling forums i just think it woudl be cool to have one here you dont have to visit it if you dont want to.
01-25-2008, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by coachk
No supplements except for roids and HGH...Trust me
01-25-2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
Kickass, so he's small in person? 
He is a friggin wall to say the least. IMO, he got to heavy, he might have problems this year turning pro.
01-25-2008, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by maximumsportZ
Tom, (CoachK) we need to talk buddy, I'm planning on going on a juice cycle. Need some Gear recomendations.
Just say NO to drugs....we'll talk.
01-25-2008, 02:23 PM
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Here's my view on steroids...If you have NO SERIOUS intention of competing at a National Level or higher then take the money that you would spend on steroids and put it into your car, its a better investment.Why spend all that money on steroids..just so you can be the biggest guy on the forum,I don't think so
I would like to apologize for making the roid and HGH comment, because I really hope this forum doesn't become a steroid forum. Train hard,eat right, and be patient and you can achieve a great physique.
I would like to apologize for making the roid and HGH comment, because I really hope this forum doesn't become a steroid forum. Train hard,eat right, and be patient and you can achieve a great physique.
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01-25-2008, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2006350zSA
test E 500mg's a week 10 weeks eat lift and have proper pct 20 pounds later youll be happy . Im a mod on 3 bodybuidling forums i just think it woudl be cool to have one here you dont have to visit it if you dont want to.
. Im a mod on 3 bodybuidling forums i just think it woudl be cool to have one here you dont have to visit it if you dont want to.test E 500 mg a week? for 10 wks?
i'm sure its not for every one
...how do you get 12% bodyfat...i need to get there...im at 17-21 or something..not sure..but i sure have tummy and bit of man-boob action going on my chest..heheh...and oh the lovehandles...gosh..its takin forever to lose em..
01-25-2008, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by coachk
Here's my view on steroids...If you have NO SERIOUS intention of competing at a National Level or higher then take the money that you would spend on steroids and put it into your car, its a better investment.Why spend all that money on steroids..just so you can be the biggest guy on the forum,I don't think so
I would like to apologize for making the roid and HGH comment, because I really hope this forum doesn't become a steroid forum. Train hard,eat right, and be patient and you can achieve a great physique.
I would like to apologize for making the roid and HGH comment, because I really hope this forum doesn't become a steroid forum. Train hard,eat right, and be patient and you can achieve a great physique.
01-26-2008, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by coachk
Here's my view on steroids...If you have NO SERIOUS intention of competing at a National Level or higher then take the money that you would spend on steroids and put it into your car, its a better investment.Why spend all that money on steroids..just so you can be the biggest guy on the forum,I don't think so
I would like to apologize for making the roid and HGH comment, because I really hope this forum doesn't become a steroid forum. Train hard,eat right, and be patient and you can achieve a great physique.
I would like to apologize for making the roid and HGH comment, because I really hope this forum doesn't become a steroid forum. Train hard,eat right, and be patient and you can achieve a great physique.
01-26-2008, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
If you want the very best advice I have on getting lean, it's the following:
1) Don't rely on cardio to get lean, the futile amount of calories burned doesn't make it the most effective way of getting lean. Do you *ever* see ripped guys or girls doing steady state cardio? Neither do I, and it's not ironic, it's that they are wasting their time. I don't do any cardio at all pre contest, if that tells you what I think about it for getting lean.
1) Don't rely on cardio to get lean, the futile amount of calories burned doesn't make it the most effective way of getting lean. Do you *ever* see ripped guys or girls doing steady state cardio? Neither do I, and it's not ironic, it's that they are wasting their time. I don't do any cardio at all pre contest, if that tells you what I think about it for getting lean.
2) Put on as much quality muscle as possible to increase calorie burning potential and also lifting heavy via squats, barbell row, deadlifts, bench, etc really amps up the metabolism as well.
3) Most imortantly, DIET IS EVERYTHING. Read that over and over until you get that you can train all you want but as they say, "garbage in garbage out." Very true.
4) as far as diet, I follow a rough 40/30/30 plan, or the Zone, or Balance, or whatever they call it now. Basically, it doesn't make you cut carbs drastically (which I think is very unhealthy and dumb), it has you maximize your macronutrient profile at each meal. Meaning, each meal has quality fats (flax, olive oil, natural peanut butter, unsalted almonds, fish oils, etc), quality protein (chicken breasts, lean steak, ground sirloin, protein powder, tuna, salmon, etc), and quality carbs (red skin potatoes, brown rice my fav, quality whole wheat bread, whole wheat pasta, high fiber fruits), and lastly it's good to add a piece of fruit to at least 2 meals a day. I love apples or pears for their low GI.
EDIT: My diet is so simple, it's funny how easy it is to maintain. I only shop at trader joes and a local grocery store for their meats at times. I live alone, so I dont have to worry about Mom making me crap food, or unhealthy stuff laying around. I only have a small cheat meal once aweek to keep me sane, and it also serves dual purpose by raising the metabolism. You don't want the body to get used to the same things all the time, sometimes a bit of change is good.
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01-26-2008, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Gman2004
I totally disagree. Some people don't do cardio while dieting, but in order to get leaner and leaner every week you have to take in fewer calories. Not everyone has the type of body where they can just keep eating less and less, because at some point it becomes unhealthy. I've seen guys get down to 1,000 calories a day and they still had to do two hours of cardio to continue to lean out. I personally perfer to eat a little more and burn it off. Also cardio makes me more vasuclar than if I just dieted without cardio.
I agree.
Again, I agree. You can do all the cardio in the world and spend 4 hours a day lifting, if you don't eat properly it won't show. There are exceptions to this. I am sure you've seen the guys that are totally jacked who hardly lift weights and eat pizza all day. Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed with those kind of genetics.
I would get rid of the red skin potatoes in exchange for sweet potatoes. All of the above is great while bulking, but I'd switch to all green vegtables when cutting.
Yeah, you need to shock the system once a week. If you are cutting then you shouldn't cheat, but rather have one meal like every 18th to 20th meal that has double the carbs of what your other meals have. this way you still shock your system but with clean food.
I agree.
Again, I agree. You can do all the cardio in the world and spend 4 hours a day lifting, if you don't eat properly it won't show. There are exceptions to this. I am sure you've seen the guys that are totally jacked who hardly lift weights and eat pizza all day. Unfortunately, not everyone is blessed with those kind of genetics.
I would get rid of the red skin potatoes in exchange for sweet potatoes. All of the above is great while bulking, but I'd switch to all green vegtables when cutting.
Yeah, you need to shock the system once a week. If you are cutting then you shouldn't cheat, but rather have one meal like every 18th to 20th meal that has double the carbs of what your other meals have. this way you still shock your system but with clean food.
In regards to my opinion on cardio. Basically, I'm built like an ectomorph, with little ankles, wrists, graduated high school at 6'3" 155. Haha, so it was my fault for saying that *everyone* needn't do cardio. With that said though, I still stand by my statement on steady state, 30+ min, low intensity cardio. It's near worthless. I mean, the avg slow metabolism person *might* burn 300 calories doing the elliptical at a slow pace for 40 min. Calories don't care how they're burned, so why not just skip out on 300 calories a day in the first place? That's my reasoning. And if you are dieting so hard that 300 calories is make or break? My advice is to not get so fat in the offseason. Bodybuilders crack me up, it's like "hey, I can be a fatass in the offseason," but now I'm mr clean come contest time.
My advice is to keep at 8-10% offseason, that way getting to 5% contest is much easier, and for those of us natural guys, dieting is the time that kills our muscle. I envy roid users that can eat 2000 calories, cardio all damn day, and *still* somehow maintain, or even GAIN muscle when dieting. Great stuff.
Oh, and lastly, my thoughts on effective cardio when I do recommend it? Interval training. Try my 12-20 min stairmaster cardio in the a.m., on an empty stomach, and the fat will pour off ya. I can't even do it more than twice a week, or I get too lean too fast.
01-26-2008, 10:00 AM
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Here's my motivation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLE72m3w0-I
He has got to have the best proportioned body Ive ever seen in 15 years of bodybuilding. Almost 21" arms in competition/ 22" offseason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLE72m3w0-I
He has got to have the best proportioned body Ive ever seen in 15 years of bodybuilding. Almost 21" arms in competition/ 22" offseason.
01-26-2008, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by black06z
Here's my motivation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLE72m3w0-I
He has got to have the best proportioned body Ive ever seen in 15 years of bodybuilding. Almost 21" arms in competition/ 22" offseason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLE72m3w0-I
He has got to have the best proportioned body Ive ever seen in 15 years of bodybuilding. Almost 21" arms in competition/ 22" offseason.
01-26-2008, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Justin07Z
Sweet video and I love Lee Priest, but you really think a 5'4" 250lb guy is perfectly proportioned? I don't know man....
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