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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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can anybody tell me what the tuning boundries or capabilites the E-manange can do? like the maximum boost or horsepower? thanks.
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Old Dec 5, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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can anybody tell me what the tuning boundries or capabilites the E-manange can do? like the maximum boost or horsepower? thanks.
There are Supra's running 30 Lbs of boost and 1000+ Hp on the E-manage
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There are no technical limits to how much WHP you can run. But the accuracy of your tuning is always dependant on what the stock ECU generates. This makes for an "uncontrolled" variable in the tuning process..and adds an element of variabilty and risk to the process. As you generate more WHP, your margin for error, and the potential for destruction increases......so it becomes riskier to use an eManage. Not say that it cant be done...because it can.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by Kyle(Houston)
There are Supra's running 30 Lbs of boost and 1000+ Hp on the E-manage
Supras also have a stock ECU that is made for boost. Big differance.

Personally I wouldn't run more than 12 psi on the e-manage.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 08:39 AM
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what type of stand alone do you recommend? what is all entailed in getting a stand alone system up and running? do the units come complete ready to use or are there an array of addirtional parts needed? (ex: harnesses, diodes, etc.)

on another note: what type of hp can we expect with running the e-manage w/ 12 pounds of boost w/ forged internals (9:1 compression pistons) an estimate?

THX
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I have read many good reviews/experiences with the Tec-3 Electromotive? Stand-alone.
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with those plug and play wiring extentions that are now available for the Z, you could make a interface to keep stock ECU with any standalone you want. and not have to build an entire engine harness.
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Default Re: Re: Re: tuning capabilites of the E-mange

Originally posted by etx
Supras also have a stock ECU that is made for boost. Big differance.

Personally I wouldn't run more than 12 psi on the e-manage.
Yes but they also run off of a MAS meter. The E-manage has a 3 Bar map sensor that allows for the removal of the MAS and 30+ lbs of boost to be contolled with it.
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Originally posted by Kyle(Houston)
Yes but they also run off of a MAS meter. The E-manage has a 3 Bar map sensor that allows for the removal of the MAS and 30+ lbs of boost to be contolled with it.

The MAF sensor has to remain, or the car won't run. The ECU will still use the MAF input to control the car during idle and cruise. But under boost, the fuel enrichment and timing will be addressed via MAP instead of MAF input.

When you go full stand-alone...you can remove the MAF entirely.
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The MAF sensor has to remain, or the car won't run. The ECU will still use the MAF input to control the car during idle and cruise. But under boost, the fuel enrichment and timing will be addressed via MAP instead of MAF input.

When you go full stand-alone...you can remove the MAF entirely.
You are correct...sorry I was talking about the Supra. On the 350z the MAS does have to remain on the car.
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Old Dec 6, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by Kyle(Houston)
You are correct...sorry I was talking about the Supra. On the 350z the MAS does have to remain on the car.
It has to remain on the Supra also. E-manage does not convert mass airflow systems to speed-density.
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It has to remain on the Supra also. E-manage does not convert mass airflow systems to speed-density.
You are correct too....I am going to shut up now and quit posting before I have enough Coffee on Mondays....LOL
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Originally posted by Kyle(Houston)
You are correct too....I am going to shut up now and quit posting before I have enough Coffee on Mondays....LOL

LOL... Glad you can take it in stride! I'd like an Americano when you have a moment please.
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Originally posted by 350zDCalb
etx:
what type of stand alone do you recommend? what is all entailed in getting a stand alone system up and running? do the units come complete ready to use or are there an array of addirtional parts needed? (ex: harnesses, diodes, etc.)



THX
The only viable option right now is the HKS F-Con V-Pro. The complex CAN bus and security systems makes is almost impossible to remove the factory ECU without rewiring the car. Many PnP manufactures are having issues with the drive by wire system.

HKS offers a plug and play harness and all that is required is a pressure sensor and air temp sensor to be mounted. The A/F Knock amp is a great accessory that gives the F-Con some closed loop capability.
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