Will forged internals prevent this? Is this the NEXT weak link?
Noticed that ceramic coatings are mentioned in the sig.
Just wondered if they changed the bearings to larger ones as the crank bearings are selectively fitted in .0002" increments, the Main bearings are fitted in .0001" increments.
This was done by Nissan to reduce vibration.
I am fairly sure that ceramic coatings are thicker than .0002" and could cause a transition or interference fit if the bearing sizes are not changed to cater for the coating.
Just my 02 (pence) worth!
Paul
Just wondered if they changed the bearings to larger ones as the crank bearings are selectively fitted in .0002" increments, the Main bearings are fitted in .0001" increments.
This was done by Nissan to reduce vibration.
I am fairly sure that ceramic coatings are thicker than .0002" and could cause a transition or interference fit if the bearing sizes are not changed to cater for the coating.
Just my 02 (pence) worth!
Paul
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IF the tolerances related to the bearing clearances are measured to 0.0001 verses .001 levels, it is easy for me to see why a bearing failure to happen. I was a journeyman guagemaker for 10 years in Detroit. I know anytime you have clearances defined in the "10,000th" range that they are extremely extremely small.
Are you sure we aren't talking about clearances measured to .001" ??
If the clearance is .0001 to .0002 it would seem (to me) that bearings would fail easily because there would be absolutely no room for the oil.
Are you sure we aren't talking about clearances measured to .001" ??
If the clearance is .0001 to .0002 it would seem (to me) that bearings would fail easily because there would be absolutely no room for the oil.
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From: JC in Atlanta Georgia
Originally posted by paul_kemshall
Noticed that ceramic coatings are mentioned in the sig.
Just wondered if they changed the bearings to larger ones as the crank bearings are selectively fitted in .0002" increments, the Main bearings are fitted in .0001" increments.
This was done by Nissan to reduce vibration.
I am fairly sure that ceramic coatings are thicker than .0002" and could cause a transition or interference fit if the bearing sizes are not changed to cater for the coating.
Just my 02 (pence) worth!
Paul
Noticed that ceramic coatings are mentioned in the sig.
Just wondered if they changed the bearings to larger ones as the crank bearings are selectively fitted in .0002" increments, the Main bearings are fitted in .0001" increments.
This was done by Nissan to reduce vibration.
I am fairly sure that ceramic coatings are thicker than .0002" and could cause a transition or interference fit if the bearing sizes are not changed to cater for the coating.
Just my 02 (pence) worth!
Paul
What should the bearing tolerances be in this area?
Should we be measuring them with plastigage?
Originally posted by jcn30127
Are you saying that since she HAD ceramic coating already, perhaps it reduced the bearing to crank clearance....thereby reducing lubrication?
What should the bearing tolerances be in this area?
Should we be measuring them with plastigage?
Are you saying that since she HAD ceramic coating already, perhaps it reduced the bearing to crank clearance....thereby reducing lubrication?
What should the bearing tolerances be in this area?
Should we be measuring them with plastigage?
If ceramic coating was applied it would reduce the clearance - i dont know what you could get away with.
I assume the engine bulider new this...
Cheers
Paul
Originally posted by Enron Exec
We need to find a good oil for these built FI engines. Im thinking Amsoil around 15W50.
We need to find a good oil for these built FI engines. Im thinking Amsoil around 15W50.
Originally posted by g356gear
I have seen bad things with turbo's and synthetic oil. My dad had an 86 300zx turbo go bad and a second one in a 92 twin turbo 300zx....both on synthetic oils. Both bearing failures in lower mileage cars.
I have seen bad things with turbo's and synthetic oil. My dad had an 86 300zx turbo go bad and a second one in a 92 twin turbo 300zx....both on synthetic oils. Both bearing failures in lower mileage cars.
Originally posted by Enron Exec
Did he break in the motor with synthetic? Which bearings failed? Man, will regular dyno oil withstand the heat?
Did he break in the motor with synthetic? Which bearings failed? Man, will regular dyno oil withstand the heat?
Originally posted by Enron Exec
Did he break in the motor with synthetic? Which bearings failed? Man, will regular dyno oil withstand the heat?
Did he break in the motor with synthetic? Which bearings failed? Man, will regular dyno oil withstand the heat?
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